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How to tell if a CD was ripped from MP3...?
Posted by Cuzman on June 17th, 2004


I bought an 'advanced copy' of an unreleased album from eBay. I paid
pittance for it, but I asked the seller beforehand if it was copied from a
proper 'advance copy', and not ripped from MP3 to WAV. The seller said that
it was, and I wouldn't have bid on it if I was told otherwise.

However, the sound quality does sound like it was ripped from MP3. Lots of
mid-range and lacking slightly in the bass and treble, the typical signs I
have always associated from my experience in burning MP3 to CD. It's
especially easy to pick up on this when playing on a very good stereo, even
when the source was ripped directly from original CD to bitrates over
192kbps and back to WAV again.

Is there a program that can tell me for sure whether this has been taken
from MP3? Surely something out there can analyse the range of the CD, in
order to confirm this for sure.


Posted by michael turner on June 17th, 2004


On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:01:19 +0100, Cuzman wrote:

Oh dear.

Well thats Ebay for you.

If it sounds like it's come from a MP3, then it more than likely has. Your
ears are the best judge for this, much more than any software.

If it looks and smells like a turd, then it probably IS a turd.

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Posted by Waldo Centini on June 17th, 2004


Cuzman surprised us with

You wanna go cheap: be prepared to be ripped off. You asked for it...

--
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Posted by Mike Papa III on June 17th, 2004


On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:01:19 +0100, "Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com>
wrote:

Rip a track from the CD using Exact Audio Copy (EAC). Look at that
ripped track using EAC's "Process WAV" feature on the Tools menu. Use
the Spectral View option on the Display menu. If you see a full
spectrum from 0-22050 kHz then you most likely haved a non-MP3 source
for the track. If you see a sharp cutoff in the 15000 range (plus or
minus a couple thousand) then it was definitely lossy encoded at some
point.


Other CD rippers probably have this feature also.

Posted by Don Wiss on June 17th, 2004


On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:01:19 +0100, "Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote:

What I would like to see is software that analyses an mp3, and compares it
to the bit rate. Then it can report if the file was originally a lower bit
rate and has been converted to a higher one.

I do come across people that truly believe you can improve the sound
quality by doing this. The most recent was a fellow that was sharing only
128 bit rate album files. IMO an inferior bit rate. He wanted to trade for
one of my files, which was a higher bit rate. I looked at the bytes he
wanted, and selected three of his files that added up to it. No, he wrote.
Trading was file for file, not by bytes. He went on to write that he
reduced all his files to 128 to save disk space. But give him a few minutes
and he would convert one to a higher rate for me. When I pointed out that
the quality wouldn't improve he insisted I was wrong and started calling me
unprintable names.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

Posted by dadiOH on June 17th, 2004


Don Wiss wrote:
?? How they gonna do that?

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Posted by Don Wiss on June 17th, 2004


On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:06:23 -0400, dadiOH <dadiOH@x-mail.net> wrote:

By analyzing the spectrum bandwidth.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

Posted by -=ô;ö-=- on June 18th, 2004


I bet your EBay source along with EBay are now in the process of being
invited to court for selling an "advance" copy of a "yet to be released"
album....

"Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
news:2jdq1vFtni0bU1@uni-berlin.de...


Posted by Michael Depke on June 18th, 2004


wrote:

'Display'/'Frequency Analysis' (from Sound Processing window) is
helpful too.


Michael


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