Hello All,

Is there a difference in quality between rips from the same
CD using different ripping software? Or is a rip the same
regardless of which program is used for output?

Thanks in advance,

Rob

"Rob" <rob@swbell.net> wrote in
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LAME is best for higher bitrates. Fraunhofer works better for lower
bitrates (up to 160) but doesn't sound as good as LAME above that.

Rob wrote:
The "quality" is the same assuming...
1. you are ripping to wave, not ripping *and* encoding to MP3
2. the CD is in good shape and has been read without errors.

The word "quality" is not really appropriate when used in context with
ripping results because it is the job of a ripping program - *any* ripping
program - to make an exact, bit by bit replica of what is on the CD to a
file/files on the computer. It is rather like asking which file manager
does the best quality job of copying a file from one directory to another.
Copying means replicating: exactly.

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dadiOH wrote:
That's not actually the case.

That would be the case if CD drives were able to read the data without error,
and there were no damage to the CD.

The sector sizes for audio CDs are larger than for data CDs. Data CDs use the
spare bits to encode redundant error correction info, so a moderately damaged
data CD can still be read faithfully.

Audio CDs, on the other hand, pack on the maximum amount of raw data on the disk
with NO ALLOWANCE FOR ERROR CORRECTION. That means that if there is a small
scratch, or the CD drive gets knocked, there could be an error. Audio players
handle this to some extent by interpolating missing samples. It sounds OK, but
won't generally be faithful to the original data.

To my knowledge, only cdparanoia, a linux program, takes care to do the best
possible job of ripping.

Ripping at high speeds is likely to increase the errors, one reason I don't like
to use iTunes to rip. cdparanoia always rips at 1x.

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"Michael D. Crawford" <crawford@goingware.com> wrote in
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According to Professor David Joyner

The CIRC code used on audio CDs can correct burst errors of up to 3500
bits (2.4mm) and can interpolate error bursts of up to 12,000 bits (8.5
mm). Advances ... The error correction on a CD guarantees that high
quality music can be enjoyed consistently and reliably.

http://web.usna.navy.mil/~wdj/reed-sol.htm

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"Rob" <rob@swbell.net> wrote in
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In My experience Exact Audio Copy does the best job of extracting from
scratched cds and informs me if there ARE errors. It is extremely
configurable to obtain the best from your CD drive, has excellent error
correction and can use Lame as an encoder.
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de
http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:14:02 +0000, from under the table fred-bloggs said:

I have had very good resualts with EAC that other software has not been
able to copy, I have also cleaned/polished off scraches that have made a
genuine cd un-playable with duraglit sliver polish.

-LN-

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