Can anyone list actual models of solid state (no hard disk) players
(ipod suffle, creative muvo, etc) that can PLAY WHILST CONNECTED TO A
POWER SOURCE? Seems like a simple thing, but I've yet to find a player
that can. We have an application for hold music on our phone system
that we'd like to hook an ipod or other device to, but not having much
luck.
Any help greatly appreacited!

barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:
It's not that difficult to modify an AC adapter so it can be connected
to the battery compartment of a portable mp3 player.

My iRiver iFP-899 runs on an AA battery, so I bought an AAA battery
holder, cut off one side and hooked it up to an AC adaptor.
All you need to do is ensure the player doesn't rest on a metal (or
some other type of conducting) surface to ensure you don't
short-circuit the AC adaptor.

http://www.ibbu.nl/~nsprakel/iriver1.jpg
http://www.ibbu.nl/~nsprakel/iriver2.jpg
http://www.ibbu.nl/~nsprakel/iriver3.jpg

In article <1121122832.691906.271120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:

If you get a powered USB Hub you could play an iPod Shuffle connected to
it. Or any number of other USB-based players I guess.

MK.

barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.creative.com/products/pro...product=187 4

The creative travelsound MP3 is the only mp3 player I know of that can
be connected to an AC adaptor. It can only be expanded with a 128 MB
smartmedia card and has 32 MB of built-in flash memory.

barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:

A Sony Clie plays just fine sitting in the cradle. Presumably other PalmOS
devices with MP3 playback capability will do the same.

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On 11 Jul 2005 16:00:32 -0700, barnes_jude@yahoo.com was understood to
have stated the following:

Cheapest Palm you can find that will run Real, has a headphone jack,
and has a SD card slot would do the job. Might be a bit of overkill,
although you may be able to find a cheap and capable enough PDA for
the price of solid state MP3 player.

On 7/12/05 1:00 AM, in article
1121122832.691906.271120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups. com,
"barnes_jude@yahoo.com" <barnes_jude@yahoo.com> wrote:


My Ipod came with a ac adapter which connects the adapter with the Ipod
using a firewire cable.

Why no hard disk?

ej

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:54:06 +0200, Eric Johnson <erj66@xs4all.nl> was
understood to have stated the following:

Lower power consumption, failure rate, cost, and operating environment
concerns would be the reasons I would choose a solid state solution
for this problem.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:54:06 +0200, Eric Johnson <erj66@xs4all.nl>
wrote:

Playing Greensleeves on endless loop hardly requires one.
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We just got a new phone system and did this too.
We used a Perstel DR201 DAB radio with MP3 player which takes mains adaptor,
been working constantly for a few weeks now with no problems. They are
widely available in the UK at least.

www.perstel.com

Z


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On 11 Jul 2005 16:00:32 -0700, barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:

MOH means to the caller that 1) The called party is too busy to deal
with you right now, and 2) that you can't possibly have anything
better to do than listen to our wonderful wonderful music.

Far better: A small beep every 10 seconds will tell a caller that
they're still connected AND and allow them to do other things, like
tell others what a forward thinking compay they're calling...

(Just because you *can* do something doesn't mean it's a good idea to
do so.)

Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:19:28 -0400, STKR@microsoft.com suggested:
: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:54:06 +0200, Eric Johnson <erj66@xs4all.nl> was
: understood to have stated the following:
:
:>
:>Why no hard disk?
:
: Lower power consumption, failure rate, cost, and operating environment
: concerns would be the reasons I would choose a solid state solution
: for this problem.

Flash memory fails too, you know. I have a couple of CompactFlash cards
that died after a year or so of light to moderate use in a digital camera.

--
agreenbu @ nyx . net andrew michael greenburg

Unfortunately I tried this already and it did not work.
The IPOD shuffle STOPS playing whenever it gets usb power, whether from
a hub or direct from a PC. You press the play button and nothing
happens. If it's in the middle of playing a song, and you plug it into
a usb port with power, the player stops and goes into a charging mode.
Thanks everyone for your input on this. Still looking for a good
solution for us here....

This sounds like it has potential.. however, I would be worried that
the device might get knocked out of it's cradle and then have no power
to it. I know how loosely those sit.

On 13 Jul 2005 08:46:03 -0700, barnes_jude@yahoo.com was understood to
have stated the following:

A T|E has a cable, not a cradle, so it's less likely to be knocked
loose from it's power supply.

I agree that just because you *can* do something doesn't mean it's a
good idea. However, your assessment of MOH seems like one of many
possible perspectives.
I personally think MOH is much better than a beep for my tastes, as
does our company apparently.. I can do other things whether it's music
or a beep, but I think music is much more personable and calming.
I think it depends on the types of people you're putting on hold, your
client base, etc, we have plans to even have a christmas mix around the
holidays. Just a touch of class from one perspective, from another
perspective, a waste of time. As with everything, "it all depends".





Wayne R. wrote:

On 15 Jul 2005 09:06:10 -0700, barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:

I'll bet exactly zero people call any company to listen to their
music. And no matter how wonderful your selections are, they can't
please everyone. And I doubt it's arguable to say that it's
presumptious to think filling their ears with it isn't their reason
for calling.

I can do other things too, but you've hijacked my ears. I can't listen
to my own music, can I? (After all, my own selections can't sound as
good as yours coming out of my crappy telephone handset.)

Do you think that the people who resent your 'taking their ears' are
counter-balanced by those who are soothed? Would you consider that the
people who might otherwise hear nothing resent the lost opportunity
for you to entertain them will they wait for you? Probably not.

It's aural crap in a world soaked in growing cesspools of it.

barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:
The iPod will begin to charge when first connected, once charged it will
then function normally for as long as it is left connected. I do this
all the time with an iPod with a dud battery (very short battery life).

Regards

David


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barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:

Was wandering around CompUSA yesterday and when I passed the display of
solid-state voice recorders I thought about your question.

Why not just use a solid state voice recorder? Sure, the sound quality is
not the same as for a purpose-made music player, but if it's going to be
heard over a phone system the phones will degrade the sound quality far
more than the recorder would.

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Apologies to anyone who has read an earlier response by me - my email
is somewhat buggered.
I am suggesting using SanDisk Photo Album Model SDV2-R. It accepts 8
types of media cards (Compact Flash, SD, MemoryStick, Smartmedia, etc.
and also flash drives (USB keychain drives).
It is powered by an AC wall wart and will play music in a loop from
media card. It is controlled by a supplied infrared remote. Following
is from Readme file:

"You can also play music without a TV. Connect the A/V cable to the
Left and Right Audio In
connection of an audio system. Select the input source on the audio
system (if necessary). Insert
a card or UFD with ONLY MP3 files into the SanDisk Photo Album, turn it
on and wait until the
LED stops blinking. Now press play and the first music file will start
playing. At the end, the next
music file will start according to the music settings."

I tried it following above instuctions and it works O.K. Removable
media will make it easy to have seasonal mixes, along with "Please
continue to hold, your call is very important to us...." Does you phone
setup have an uninterupptable power supply? You would want to plug
player into that, because most won't restart after power out.

Main purpose of device is to show pictures from camera cards on TV,
with sound if desired. Also works as an 8 in 1 media reader (USB 1.1) I
did a slide show for a patient seminar at the hospital where I work and
it did fine.





barnes_jude@yahoo.com wrote:> Can anyone list actual models of solid
state (no hard disk) players