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Activation after repair install
Posted by Chipper on September 30th, 2005


Hello,

I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It went so
smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work wonderfully and
faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a lot of
none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!

The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up only
after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several times for
about a day! But the message indicates that I have only three days to do so.

I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.

Thanks ahead for any input on this.

Chipper




Posted by Harry Ohrn on September 30th, 2005


Worst case scenario is you will need to use the telephone activation process
which takes only a few minutes.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Chipper" <chipper@no.spam> wrote in message
news:dhi02d$sq4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
> Hello,
>
> I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
> changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It went so
> smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work wonderfully and
> faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a lot of
> none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!
>
> The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up only
> after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several times for
> about a day! But the message indicates that I have only three days to do
> so.
>
> I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.
>
> Thanks ahead for any input on this.
>
> Chipper
>
>
>
>



Posted by kurttrail on September 30th, 2005


Chipper wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
> changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It
> went so smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work
> wonderfully and faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a
> lot of none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!
>
> The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up
> only after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several
> times for about a day! But the message indicates that I have only
> three days to do so.
>
> I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.
>
> Thanks ahead for any input on this.
>
> Chipper


LOL! PA code is just as flawed, if not worse, than the rest of MS's
code. Sh*t happens, and it seems to happen more frequently when MS is
involved.

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Posted by Bill on September 30th, 2005


Kurttrail,
You are such a troll. All you ever do is gripe about MS and tell people to
dump it and start using Linux.



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:u33hH5bxFHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Chipper wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
>> changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It
>> went so smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work
>> wonderfully and faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a
>> lot of none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!
>>
>> The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up
>> only after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several
>> times for about a day! But the message indicates that I have only
>> three days to do so.
>>
>> I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.
>>
>> Thanks ahead for any input on this.
>>
>> Chipper

>
> LOL! PA code is just as flawed, if not worse, than the rest of MS's code.
> Sh*t happens, and it seems to happen more frequently when MS is involved.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>



Posted by Alias on September 30th, 2005



"Bill" <BillGates@microsoft.com> whined:

> Kurttrail,
> You are such a troll. All you ever do is gripe about MS and tell people to
> dump it and start using Linux.


Can you contribute something to the subject at hand or can you only diss
Kurt? Both WPA and WGA are flawed. This is a proven fact, whether you like
MS, think Kurt is a troll, or don't change your underwear.

Alias
>
>
>
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
> news:u33hH5bxFHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Chipper wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
>>> changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It
>>> went so smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work
>>> wonderfully and faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a
>>> lot of none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!
>>>
>>> The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up
>>> only after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several
>>> times for about a day! But the message indicates that I have only
>>> three days to do so.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.
>>>
>>> Thanks ahead for any input on this.
>>>
>>> Chipper

>>
>> LOL! PA code is just as flawed, if not worse, than the rest of MS's
>> code. Sh*t happens, and it seems to happen more frequently when MS is
>> involved.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>>

>
>



Posted by kurttrail on September 30th, 2005


Bill wrote:
> Kurttrail,
> You are such a troll. All you ever do is gripe about MS and tell
> people to dump it and start using Linux.


LOL! Perhaps you can't read, but I didn't even mention "Linux," in the
post you responded to.

MS isn't God's gift to humanity. All it is, is a soul-less, greedy,
man-made, proven predatory monopolist of a corporation.

--
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"


Posted by Chipper on September 30th, 2005


Hello all,

Thanks for the informative responses!!! I did not know I touched on an
apparent sore subject!

Anyhow, I think that MS would also agree that it is not God's gift to
humanity. They would stress that it itself is its own gift to humanity,
maybe!

And, as far as the soul-less..... part goes, isn't that what big
businessses in America are all about? One can call them what they will, but
they do keep America leading the world in science and technology including
Information Technology. Or maybe not for long - the Chinese and Indians are
catching up fast and, perhaps, learning from our mistakes here, if any!

By the way, the online re-activation on the PC went off perfectly. I somehow
still cannot get over the smoothness of the repair install and reactivation
processes. From what I heard locally and read about, they could be tricky
sometimes on a hardware platform change! But I am happy, very very happy.

Regards and thanks.

Chipper




"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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: Bill wrote:
: > Kurttrail,
: > You are such a troll. All you ever do is gripe about MS and tell
: > people to dump it and start using Linux.
:
: LOL! Perhaps you can't read, but I didn't even mention "Linux," in the
: post you responded to.
:
: MS isn't God's gift to humanity. All it is, is a soul-less, greedy,
: man-made, proven predatory monopolist of a corporation.
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt
: Self-anointed Moderator
: microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: http://microscum.com/mscommunity
: "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:


Posted by kurttrail on September 30th, 2005


Chipper wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Thanks for the informative responses!!! I did not know I touched on an
> apparent sore subject!


Not sore at all.

>
> Anyhow, I think that MS would also agree that it is not God's gift to
> humanity. They would stress that it itself is its own gift to
> humanity, maybe!


It is man-made. I don't worship at the shrine of MS as "Bill"
apparently does.

> And, as far as the soul-less..... part goes, isn't that what big
> businessses in America are all about?


Yep, and NO business entity is worthy of trust it hasn't earned.

All the trust MS has earned is popularizing the 3 finger salute.

> One can call them what they
> will, but they do keep America leading the world in science and
> technology including Information Technology.


And your evidence of that is? Since MS has become a major world player,
the US has been declining as the leader of science and technology. What
MS has done is dumbed down computing to the level of the average
American.

> Or maybe not for long -
> the Chinese and Indians are catching up fast and, perhaps, learning
> from our mistakes here, if any!
>
> By the way, the online re-activation on the PC went off perfectly. I
> somehow still cannot get over the smoothness of the repair install
> and reactivation processes. From what I heard locally and read about,
> they could be tricky sometimes on a hardware platform change! But I
> am happy, very very happy.
>
> Regards and thanks.


Congrats. But that you had activation not work the way it is supposed
to suggests that somewhere down the line, you may have problems with it
again.

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Posted by Bill on September 30th, 2005


You really crack me up. In America corporations make money to pay there
employees and shareholders. There objective is basically to try and make a
better product then there competitors and sell there products for what ever
the market will pay. I'm sure you feel that somehow the world owes you
something so you should be able to run what ever software you have for free.
After all programmers don't deserved to be paid for there work! (NOT).
Please name me one large corporation who doesn't want to make money, doesn't
want to have a product that over 98% of the market wants to buy, or doesn't
want to try and put there competitors out of business?



Let me guess you work for a corporation where you have to pay to work there
and they give there product away free of charge?



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:u6X6QSdxFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Bill wrote:
>> Kurttrail,
>> You are such a troll. All you ever do is gripe about MS and tell
>> people to dump it and start using Linux.

>
> LOL! Perhaps you can't read, but I didn't even mention "Linux," in the
> post you responded to.
>
> MS isn't God's gift to humanity. All it is, is a soul-less, greedy,
> man-made, proven predatory monopolist of a corporation.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>



Posted by kurttrail on September 30th, 2005


Bill wrote:
> You really crack me up. In America corporations make money to pay
> there employees and shareholders.


No all of them are proven predatory monopolies.

> There objective is basically to try
> and make a better product then there competitors and sell there
> products for what ever the market will pay. I'm sure you feel that
> somehow the world owes you something so you should be able to run
> what ever software you have for free.


You're sure how I feel? And how long have you felt you possessed
psychic abilities to know how someone, you never met, feels?

> After all programmers don't
> deserved to be paid for there work! (NOT).


Make up your mind. Should they get paid or NOT? You have absolutely no
idea what my answer would be, but you should be able to figure out how
YOU feel about it.

> Please name me one large
> corporation who doesn't want to make money, doesn't want to have a
> product that over 98% of the market wants to buy, or doesn't want to
> try and put there competitors out of business?


One's that don't want problems with anti-trust regulators. You know,
the ethical kinds of businesses.

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Posted by Bill on October 1st, 2005



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:ueOthUgxFHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Bill wrote:
>> You really crack me up. In America corporations make money to pay
>> there employees and shareholders.

>
> No all of them are proven predatory monopolies.
>
>> There objective is basically to try
>> and make a better product then there competitors and sell there
>> products for what ever the market will pay. I'm sure you feel that
>> somehow the world owes you something so you should be able to run
>> what ever software you have for free.

>
> You're sure how I feel? And how long have you felt you possessed psychic
> abilities to know how someone, you never met, feels?
>


Well I guess your so psychic you can tell what a whole corporation thinks as
this quote from a typical post of yours shows:

"MS doesn't give a rat's ass about its paying customers, and will continue
to keep screwing all of you that keep on paying them to do it."



>> After all programmers don't
>> deserved to be paid for there work! (NOT).

>
> Make up your mind. Should they get paid or NOT? You have absolutely no
> idea what my answer would be, but you should be able to figure out how YOU
> feel about it.
>
>> Please name me one large
>> corporation who doesn't want to make money, doesn't want to have a
>> product that over 98% of the market wants to buy, or doesn't want to
>> try and put there competitors out of business?

>
> One's that don't want problems with anti-trust regulators. You know, the
> ethical kinds of businesses.
>


Still waiting for just one name?

> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>



Posted by kurttrail on October 1st, 2005


Bill wrote:
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:ueOthUgxFHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Bill wrote:
>>> You really crack me up. In America corporations make money to pay
>>> there employees and shareholders.

>>
>> No all of them are proven predatory monopolies.
>>
>>> There objective is basically to try
>>> and make a better product then there competitors and sell there
>>> products for what ever the market will pay. I'm sure you feel that
>>> somehow the world owes you something so you should be able to run
>>> what ever software you have for free.

>>
>> You're sure how I feel? And how long have you felt you possessed
>> psychic abilities to know how someone, you never met, feels?
>>

>
> Well I guess your so psychic you can tell what a whole corporation
> thinks as this quote from a typical post of yours shows:
>
> "MS doesn't give a rat's ass about its paying customers, and will
> continue to keep screwing all of you that keep on paying them to do
> it."


Nicely taken out of context!

See, it is you that shows some the signs of being a troll, not me.

>
>>> After all programmers don't
>>> deserved to be paid for there work! (NOT).

>>
>> Make up your mind. Should they get paid or NOT? You have
>> absolutely no idea what my answer would be, but you should be able
>> to figure out how YOU feel about it.
>>
>>> Please name me one large
>>> corporation who doesn't want to make money, doesn't want to have a
>>> product that over 98% of the market wants to buy, or doesn't want to
>>> try and put there competitors out of business?

>>
>> One's that don't want problems with anti-trust regulators. You
>> know, the ethical kinds of businesses.
>>

>
> Still waiting for just one name?



Any ethical corporation, but quite frankly, I seriously doubt that there
is such an business entity.

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Posted by Uncle Joe on October 1st, 2005


Something most people don't know about
Microsoft's activation process is that in
addition to the lengthy activation code one
must enter, Microsoft analyzes your PC's
hardware and compiles an array based
on your equipment. MS acquires your
motherboard serial, CPU serial number,
hard drive serial number, your video
card data, and so forth. This is maintained
in an array of seven components. The purpose
of this is to check during start-up to
make sure that the activated OS is
actually running on the machine it was
installed on. You can change a few
components such as the hard drive,
and -1 will be deducted from your
activation array of 7. But when you change
enough components (CPU, hard drive,
motherboard, and so forth) to reduce
the array by three components, the
activation process is invoked.

The reactivation process is relatively
painless. If you've changed a lot of
your components, you'll to explain
what happened to a Microsoft tech.
Activation can then proceed. It's
Microsoft's way of ensuring that
you don't loan your OS to your good
buddy across the street so that he
can install it, too.

There's a web page on this somewhere
out in Cyberspace, but I can't
remember where it is.

Glad your fast system is up and
running smoothly.


"Chipper" <chipper@no.spam> wrote in message
news:dhi02d$sq4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
> Hello,
>
> I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
> changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It
> went so
> smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work wonderfully
> and
> faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a lot of
> none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!
>
> The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up
> only
> after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several
> times for
> about a day! But the message indicates that I have only three days
> to do so.
>
> I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.
>
> Thanks ahead for any input on this.
>
> Chipper
>
>
>
>



Posted by kurttrail on October 1st, 2005


Uncle Joe wrote:
> Something most people don't know about
> Microsoft's activation process is that in
> addition to the lengthy activation code one
> must enter, Microsoft analyzes your PC's
> hardware and compiles an array based
> on your equipment. MS acquires your
> motherboard serial, CPU serial number,
> hard drive serial number, your video
> card data, and so forth. This is maintained
> in an array of seven components. The purpose
> of this is to check during start-up to
> make sure that the activated OS is
> actually running on the machine it was
> installed on. You can change a few
> components such as the hard drive,
> and -1 will be deducted from your
> activation array of 7. But when you change
> enough components (CPU, hard drive,
> motherboard, and so forth) to reduce
> the array by three components, the
> activation process is invoked.
>
> The reactivation process is relatively
> painless. If you've changed a lot of
> your components, you'll to explain
> what happened to a Microsoft tech.
> Activation can then proceed. It's
> Microsoft's way of ensuring that
> you don't loan your OS to your good
> buddy across the street so that he
> can install it, too.
>
> There's a web page on this somewhere
> out in Cyberspace, but I can't
> remember where it is.
>
> Glad your fast system is up and
> running smoothly.


There are so, so many inaccuracies in you post, that I don't know where
to begin.

"Something [YOU] don't know about Microsoft's activation process is"
just about everything.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"


Posted by Rainy on October 1st, 2005


WELL IT would be great if you could clear it up... I would love to know what
the actual process is... it bothers me to think microsoft would go after and
keep my serial numbers of components that have nothing to do with them... so
please inform us.. the operating system serial number is one thing.. but not
the rest of it.. thanks Rainy


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:uGSO2vsxFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Uncle Joe wrote:
>> Something most people don't know about
>> Microsoft's activation process is that in
>> addition to the lengthy activation code one
>> must enter, Microsoft analyzes your PC's
>> hardware and compiles an array based
>> on your equipment. MS acquires your
>> motherboard serial, CPU serial number,
>> hard drive serial number, your video
>> card data, and so forth. This is maintained
>> in an array of seven components. The purpose
>> of this is to check during start-up to
>> make sure that the activated OS is
>> actually running on the machine it was
>> installed on. You can change a few
>> components such as the hard drive,
>> and -1 will be deducted from your
>> activation array of 7. But when you change
>> enough components (CPU, hard drive,
>> motherboard, and so forth) to reduce
>> the array by three components, the
>> activation process is invoked.
>>
>> The reactivation process is relatively
>> painless. If you've changed a lot of
>> your components, you'll to explain
>> what happened to a Microsoft tech.
>> Activation can then proceed. It's
>> Microsoft's way of ensuring that
>> you don't loan your OS to your good
>> buddy across the street so that he
>> can install it, too.
>>
>> There's a web page on this somewhere
>> out in Cyberspace, but I can't
>> remember where it is.
>>
>> Glad your fast system is up and
>> running smoothly.

>
> There are so, so many inaccuracies in you post, that I don't know where to
> begin.
>
> "Something [YOU] don't know about Microsoft's activation process is" just
> about everything.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>



Posted by Uncle Joe on October 1st, 2005


Okay, I'll withdraw my post until I
can find the web site where this info
was published. I didn't invent it
myself. The web site was quite
detailed insofar as how Microsoft
built its activation algorithm.

"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
message news:uGSO2vsxFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Uncle Joe wrote:
>> Something most people don't know about
>> Microsoft's activation process is that in
>> addition to the lengthy activation code one
>> must enter, Microsoft analyzes your PC's
>> hardware and compiles an array based
>> on your equipment. MS acquires your
>> motherboard serial, CPU serial number,
>> hard drive serial number, your video
>> card data, and so forth. This is maintained
>> in an array of seven components. The purpose
>> of this is to check during start-up to
>> make sure that the activated OS is
>> actually running on the machine it was
>> installed on. You can change a few
>> components such as the hard drive,
>> and -1 will be deducted from your
>> activation array of 7. But when you change
>> enough components (CPU, hard drive,
>> motherboard, and so forth) to reduce
>> the array by three components, the
>> activation process is invoked.
>>
>> The reactivation process is relatively
>> painless. If you've changed a lot of
>> your components, you'll to explain
>> what happened to a Microsoft tech.
>> Activation can then proceed. It's
>> Microsoft's way of ensuring that
>> you don't loan your OS to your good
>> buddy across the street so that he
>> can install it, too.
>>
>> There's a web page on this somewhere
>> out in Cyberspace, but I can't
>> remember where it is.
>>
>> Glad your fast system is up and
>> running smoothly.

>
> There are so, so many inaccuracies in you post, that I don't know
> where to begin.
>
> "Something [YOU] don't know about Microsoft's activation process is"
> just about everything.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>



Posted by Uncle Joe on October 2nd, 2005


Okay, scan this document about Microsoft's
activation algorithm.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/xpactiv.mspx


"Uncle Joe" <Uncle Jose@anonymous.net> wrote in message
news:Oz2NMutxFHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Okay, I'll withdraw my post until I
> can find the web site where this info
> was published. I didn't invent it
> myself. The web site was quite
> detailed insofar as how Microsoft
> built its activation algorithm.
>
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:uGSO2vsxFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Uncle Joe wrote:
>>> Something most people don't know about
>>> Microsoft's activation process is that in
>>> addition to the lengthy activation code one
>>> must enter, Microsoft analyzes your PC's
>>> hardware and compiles an array based
>>> on your equipment. MS acquires your
>>> motherboard serial, CPU serial number,
>>> hard drive serial number, your video
>>> card data, and so forth. This is maintained
>>> in an array of seven components. The purpose
>>> of this is to check during start-up to
>>> make sure that the activated OS is
>>> actually running on the machine it was
>>> installed on. You can change a few
>>> components such as the hard drive,
>>> and -1 will be deducted from your
>>> activation array of 7. But when you change
>>> enough components (CPU, hard drive,
>>> motherboard, and so forth) to reduce
>>> the array by three components, the
>>> activation process is invoked.
>>>
>>> The reactivation process is relatively
>>> painless. If you've changed a lot of
>>> your components, you'll to explain
>>> what happened to a Microsoft tech.
>>> Activation can then proceed. It's
>>> Microsoft's way of ensuring that
>>> you don't loan your OS to your good
>>> buddy across the street so that he
>>> can install it, too.
>>>
>>> There's a web page on this somewhere
>>> out in Cyberspace, but I can't
>>> remember where it is.
>>>
>>> Glad your fast system is up and
>>> running smoothly.

>>
>> There are so, so many inaccuracies in you post, that I don't know
>> where to begin.
>>
>> "Something [YOU] don't know about Microsoft's activation process
>> is" just about everything.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>>

>
>



Posted by kurttrail on October 2nd, 2005


Uncle Joe wrote:
> Okay, scan this document about Microsoft's
> activation algorithm.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/xpactiv.mspx


"MS acquires your motherboard serial,"

No, it doesn't

"CPU serial number, hard drive serial number, your video card data, and
so forth. This is maintained in an array of seven components."

In a hardware hash, not an array, of which it collects has data on TEN
components, not seven. And the what you are missing is that the
hardware hash is not backwards calculated, and when the hardware hash is
sent to MS as part of the Installation ID , it only sends a small
snapshot of it.

"The reactivation process is relatively painless."

Pure propaganda. How a person feels about the reactivation process is
totally subjective, and will be different from person to person. People
that think MS is God, will enjoy the living sh*t out of reactivating.
People that know that activation doesn't do ANYTHING to stop REAL PIRACY
will resent having to go through the MS's hoops like a trained show dog.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"


Posted by Chipper on October 3rd, 2005


Thanks for the input.

I am really glad that the reactivation went off without a hitch.

Reading the responses generated by my post makes me realize that the WPA is
quite an issue! I have been hearing about it too earlier and that is why I
had the initial trepidation on going ahead with the reactivation.

Interestingly, in the Microsoft link you provided regarding WPA, I came
across an interesting paragraph - "Scenario A" - that comes before the
Conclusions section. According to it a motherboard and CPU change does not
require reactivation!

And one other paragraph is so interesting I am quoting it in full here: "The
change of a single component multiple times (e.g. from video adapter A to
video adapter B to video adapter C) is treated as a single change. The
addition of components to a PC, such as adding a second hard drive which did
not exist during the original activation, would not trigger the need for a
reactivation nor would the modification of a component not listed in the
above table. Additionally, reinstallation of Windows XP on the same or
similar hardware and a subsequent reactivation can be accomplished an
infinite number of times. Finally, the Microsoft activation clearinghouse
system will automatically allow activation to occur over the Internet four
times in one year on substantially different hardware. This last feature was
implemented to allow even the most savvy power users to make changes to
their systems and, if they must reactivate, do so over the Internet rather
than necessitating a telephone call."

This should, theoretically, allow one source CD to be installed on four
different computers in a year! Or, did I read it wrong?

Regards.

Chipper




"Uncle Joe" <Uncle Jose@anonymous.net> wrote in message
news:uZ4FqrnxFHA.3180@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
: Something most people don't know about
: Microsoft's activation process is that in
: addition to the lengthy activation code one
: must enter, Microsoft analyzes your PC's
: hardware and compiles an array based
: on your equipment. MS acquires your
: motherboard serial, CPU serial number,
: hard drive serial number, your video
: card data, and so forth. This is maintained
: in an array of seven components. The purpose
: of this is to check during start-up to
: make sure that the activated OS is
: actually running on the machine it was
: installed on. You can change a few
: components such as the hard drive,
: and -1 will be deducted from your
: activation array of 7. But when you change
: enough components (CPU, hard drive,
: motherboard, and so forth) to reduce
: the array by three components, the
: activation process is invoked.
:
: The reactivation process is relatively
: painless. If you've changed a lot of
: your components, you'll to explain
: what happened to a Microsoft tech.
: Activation can then proceed. It's
: Microsoft's way of ensuring that
: you don't loan your OS to your good
: buddy across the street so that he
: can install it, too.
:
: There's a web page on this somewhere
: out in Cyberspace, but I can't
: remember where it is.
:
: Glad your fast system is up and
: running smoothly.
:
:
: "Chipper" <chipper@no.spam> wrote in message
: news:dhi02d$sq4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
: > Hello,
: >
: > I was able to do a successful repair install of Windows XP Pro after
: > changing from an Intel CPU and motherboard to an AMD 64 system. It
: > went so
: > smoothly I still don't believe it! All applications work wonderfully
: > and
: > faster (AMDs are fast). And I had started out with a lot of
: > none-too-good-outcome-scenarios in mind!!
: >
: > The funny thing is that the reactivation requirement has popped up
: > only
: > after the system has been used, shut-down, and restarted several
: > times for
: > about a day! But the message indicates that I have only three days
: > to do so.
: >
: > I was wondering if there could be any problems in this process.
: >
: > Thanks ahead for any input on this.
: >
: > Chipper
: >
: >
: >
: >
:
:


Posted by Alias on October 3rd, 2005



"Chipper" wrote

> Thanks for the input.
>
> I am really glad that the reactivation went off without a hitch.
>
> Reading the responses generated by my post makes me realize that the WPA
> is
> quite an issue! I have been hearing about it too earlier and that is why
> I
> had the initial trepidation on going ahead with the reactivation.
>
> Interestingly, in the Microsoft link you provided regarding WPA, I came
> across an interesting paragraph - "Scenario A" - that comes before the
> Conclusions section. According to it a motherboard and CPU change does not
> require reactivation!
>
> And one other paragraph is so interesting I am quoting it in full here:
> "The
> change of a single component multiple times (e.g. from video adapter A to
> video adapter B to video adapter C) is treated as a single change. The
> addition of components to a PC, such as adding a second hard drive which
> did
> not exist during the original activation, would not trigger the need for a
> reactivation nor would the modification of a component not listed in the
> above table. Additionally, reinstallation of Windows XP on the same or
> similar hardware and a subsequent reactivation can be accomplished an
> infinite number of times. Finally, the Microsoft activation clearinghouse
> system will automatically allow activation to occur over the Internet four
> times in one year on substantially different hardware. This last feature
> was
> implemented to allow even the most savvy power users to make changes to
> their systems and, if they must reactivate, do so over the Internet rather
> than necessitating a telephone call."
>
> This should, theoretically, allow one source CD to be installed on four
> different computers in a year! Or, did I read it wrong?
>
> Regards.
>
> Chipper


You don't have a reading comprehension problem at all.

Alias



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