"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I did not claim to be conclusive.

Thank you for all your research. I snipped a lot but I hope everyone
interested will have access to it.

I don't have time to be conclusive. If I am wrong then I apologize for
wasting people's time. Note that my original comment was simple and
suggested that people be skeptical and what to look for. I don't consider
myself obligated to do or say anything more if I am correct.

I see nothing conclusive that I am incorrect.

Sam Hobbs wrote:

So, you feel free to cast doubt on the validity of several others'
advice, and to cast aspersions upon an organization that provides a
valuable service, all without seeing the slightest need to justify or
substantiate your accusations? The normal term for one who uses such an
operating standard is "troll."



The very fact that you won't even attempt to justify or substantiate
your claims demonstrates that even you know you're unlikely to be
correct. All you've accomplished is to establish your lack credibility.


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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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There are many frustrated people that use newsgroups such as this to express
frutration, and that is what you are doing here. It might make you feel good
to say these things but you are not accomplishing anything useful.

I have made it very clear that that is incorrect.

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:58:20 -0800 from Sam Hobbs
<samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal>:
Anybody who's been here for any length of time knows who has more
credibility between you two. You do yourself no service by attacking
a respected contributor in this fashion. It makes you look smaller
and stupider, not bigger and wiser.

An overdue plonk!

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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It is Bruce's words that are unnecessary. People here are really exagerating
this issue. The mature thing to do is to agree to disagree. There are too
many people here that cannot do that, but I certainly am.

No one has yet provided anything conclusive; it is not just me that has not.

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Look at "How is data from spam submissions used?" at:
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/145.html

Especially the part that says "It is possible that the header may reveal
your email address.".

Sam Hobbs <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote:
Actually: don't look now but if your spammer sees your address, then he
already has it or you wouldn't have done the submission or received the
spam. SC munges the obvious places an address appears but can not get
all of them. However it's very, very seldom a spammer sees the info,
considering how many complaints are normally filed against him, even if
he did care.

Sam Hobbs wrote:

Well, duh! We all know that. What you need to do is substantiate your
insinuation that SpamCop sends this information to the spammers. That,
after all, would be the only time the presence of one's email address in
the headers could conceivably (but probably not, as the spammer already
has the info) make things worse.



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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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I explained that previously.