I thought I read somewhere that it was possible to force a dual layer dvd
drive (via a firmware flash) to write dual layer iso images on single layer
media. Is that true?

I've got an NEC 3500 and wanted to see if I should stick with single layer
dvd-r media or make the switch to dvd+r if I could convince the drive to
pretend they were dual layer media; I think the article said something about
dual layer media being the same as single layer but just having been
certified as dual layer.

If this is the case, has anyone had any success with the NEC drive (a
particular firmware) and verbatim disks?

thanks a bunch,
thomas

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:03:45 -0800, "thomas" <thomas@nospam.com>
wrote:

No firmware required.
DVD movies are on dual layer discs.
Use dvd shrink to compress the video onto a single layer or just
remove all the special features and menu which will leave you with a
4gb movie and no need to compress.

www.dvdshrink.org

Dual layer costs like 10 times more. Make a mistake or two and it gets
a bit expensive.

Stick with dvd-r which is all you need and more compatible.

"am" <am@am.com> wrote in message
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that's what I was looking to avoid if possible - I've noticed trying to
remove the 'extra' stuff form episode disks (usually 4 per dvd) doesn't help
reduce the size and I wanted to make exact copies of the disks so I could
put away the originals (i.e. not have to dig them out everytime I felt like
watching an extra feature or behind the scene).

sounds like I'll have to wait till the media price drops down alot more...

thanks

use dvd shrink and turn on the compression options, it has a few options in
it. If you do use all the compression, it will take a lot longer to copy,
but the quailty will be excellent, and unless you have a 72" high definition
TV zoomed in to 16x, you won't notice any difference in picture quailty.

"thomas" <thomas@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:26:42 GMT, "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote:

Utter BS. I see it on my 43" Samsung DLP with ZERO zoom.

do you have the latest version of dvd shrink, with ALL compression otpions
turned on?
Are you at least dropping the other languages and stereo sound tracks?
That doesn't sound right at all to me.
You must be doing something wrong or using an old version of dvd shrink

"Baked" <baked@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:20:17 GMT, "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote:

Nup. Dropping everything on the re-author except the main title and 1 DD sound
track on DVD Shrink 3.2. Certainly looks passable but I was questioning this:

Perhaps you need a high quality display and a DVD player with a dvi connection
to see the differences between the real dvd and the DVD Shrink rip.

"Baked" <baked@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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My brother-in-law uses a $14K DLP Sharp projector to a 120" screen. I've
seen rips compressed to around 65% showing virtually no side effects.
Certainly rips at 80% plus are completely indistinguishable from the
original.

To the OP, if you must retain all the bones features etc, use 2 DVD-R's.....
still way cheaper than the DL option.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:50:43 -0500, Baked <baked@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

I have a bigger tv than that and don't notice any compression because
there is NONE. If you remove all the junk and only left with the movie
it is often around 4gb so no compression needed. If you want all the
other junk then put it onto another disc.

"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
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ok - i've tried shrink and it looks ok so far (atleast I can't tell the
difference, certainly not enough to go and dig out the originals whenever I
want to watch something) - the only question now is how do I retain the
original dvd id - i.e. when you play the original in media player for
example, it retrieves the name of the dvd and chapters (more important for
me) from the web, but not for the copied version.

what i've tried so far is a straight backup with dvd shrink 3.2 using the
same dvd volume name as the original but that doesn't seem to be enough.

thanks

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:01:51 GMT, bn <bn@bn.com> wrote:

Of course. But there are many movies out there that the main title alone is 7
gigs. Are you stupid?