- "Cyclic Redundancy Error" when encoding to or burning from the hard drive
- Posted by Dan P. on January 9th, 2005
I'm trying to make a copy of a DVD movie but I'm having problems. I tried
to decrypt and re-author the DVD using DVD Shrink. The encoding process
succeeded; however, when I tried to burn the files using Nero, it failed
with a "Error Reading Data" error.
At first I thought I was burning too fast (16x...even though my drive and
media support it). So I slowed it down to 8x and 4x, and those didn't work
either.
I then tried to decrypt the DVD using DVD Decrypter. Again, it ripped the
DVD with no errors (I tried both "File" and "ISO" modes). But when trying
to encode in DVD Shrink, I get the "cyclic redundancy error".
I then got it to decrypt and encode from DVD Shrink without an error, but
then when burning to the DVD (using either DVD Decrypter or Nero), it fails
with the "cyclic redundancy error".
I have a feeling it has something to do with my hard drive because it seems
to happen anytime I read the ISO image (or VIDEO_TS files). When I ran
chkdsk, it locked up during Stage 4. But then I ran it in the recovery
console, and was able to get it to finish.
I've made about 8 coasters today and I'm about ready to quit. Can anybody
help me out?
Dan
- Posted by Will Dormann on January 9th, 2005
Dan P. wrote:
Run the diagnostic tool from your hard drive's manufacturer and/or
smartmontools:
http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
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-WD
- Posted by Bill Vermillion on January 9th, 2005
In article <rp5Ed.6965$fE4.694078@twister.southeast.rr.com> , Dan
P. <dperlbergerN0SPAM@ec.rr.com> wrote:
When you made the ISO mode copy with DVDDecrupter did you then
try to write the ISO image using DVDDecrytper? In DVDDe* you
can set the error retries for both read and write, and you can tell
it to ignore errors after N number of retries, and at that time
it will fill with zeros. I was able to successfully recover
a disk burnt on a set-top DVR that had problems with only a
couple of freeze frames in the middle. I let DVDDecrypter run
at maximum tries and it took overnight to read the image, but it
was saved in the end.
Is this error coming from the write mode? If so then it may be
media. Is your drive a 'burn-proof' drive. If not set the write
speed donw lower.
What OS and version are you using?
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
- Posted by Dan P. on January 9th, 2005
"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:Qr6dnYRx0pCY1XzcRVn-1A@comcast.com...
Toshiba apparently doesn't have any diagnostic tools for their hard drives.
I'm currently running SpinRite so we'll see if any bad sectors come up.
If nothing shows up there, I'll either try smartmontools or Maxtor's or
IBM's diagnostic tools. I read somewhere that they work on other
manufacturer's hard drives.
Dan
- Posted by Dan P. on January 9th, 2005
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IA23Hr.1L8o@wjv.com...
When I made the ISO copy, I first ran it through DVD Shrink to compress it,
and then I tried burning the ISO file using DVD Decrypter. I'll check out
those retry settings and see if it can at least complete the burning
process.
I think it's happening as a result of reading the data from the hard drive.
Because I'm getting those same errors when using DVD Shrink to compress and
re-encode the DVD, after ripping it to the hard drive using DVD Decrypter.
During that operation, the burner is completely out of the loop.
Here are my specs:
Windows XP Home Edition SP1
Athlon XP Mobile 2400 (1.8 GHz) processor
512 MB Ram
Toshiba MK4021GAS 40 GB Hard Drive
Sony DRX-710UL External USB Burner
- Posted by Bill Vermillion on January 11th, 2005
In article <wpfEd.14433$dt3.580354@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
Dan P. <dperlbergerN0SPAM@ec.rr.com> wrote:
I've never used it quite like that. I either make straight .isos
from a disk, or make one from mpg files with TDA.
When I've used shrink I don't think I used DVDDecrypter.
So I'm not a great help here.
Do you have anything that can just read the file taht is giving you
problems to see if it is an hd problem?
It does sound suspiciously like and HD problem but there are too
many SW things in the middle to be sure. The last program writing
before the program with the failed reads could possibly be the
problem. After working with small machines for about 20 years I
still run across things I've never seen before - things that are
often counter-intuitive.
With a drive that small are you sure you aren't accidentally
running out of space with all the copying and modifying?
XP seems to work best with most media programs from what I've seen
- at least in the PC world - so that's not a problem. I see
nothing woring with those specs.
Bill
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
- Posted by Dan P. on January 11th, 2005
"Dan P." <dperlbergerN0SPAM@ec.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rp5Ed.6965$fE4.694078@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
I solved my problem. It was indeed bad sectors on my hard drive that was
the culprit. I finally found a program (HDD Regenerator) that found the bad
sectors and eliminated them. Now, everything works like a charm.
Thanks for everybody that responded.
Dan
- Posted by Gene E. Bloch on January 11th, 2005
"Dan P." <dperlbergerN0SPAM@ec.rr.com> wrote in
news:HzHEd.9657$hQ6.1837010@twister.southeast.rr.c om:
Consider getting a new hard drive and S/W to clone the old one to
the new one *before* the current drive finishes dying.
If this were happening to me, I wouldn't wait long.
I admit that I'm paranoid, but there is Bloch's Lemma: It's crazy
not to be paranoid :-)
Gino
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- Posted by Dan P. on January 12th, 2005
"Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns95DAC546326BCAstrolabe@216.196.97.136...
I don't have any vital files on this computer. But it does have alot of
programs, so yeah it might be a good idea. But since fixing the sectors,
I've had no problems burning DVDs. I've done 6 so far. So hopefully I
won't see any more bad sectors in the near future.
Dan
- Posted by Will Dormann on January 12th, 2005
Dan P. wrote:
If the bad sectors were visible to the OS / computer, then the drive has
most likely used up its collection of spare sectors.
Normally when a drive detects trouble reading a sector, it will
transparently move the data in those sectors to one of the spares. Once
you run out of spares, that's when you run into trouble.
I would recommend that you replace the drive ASAP if you have anything
worthwhile on it.
Post your smartmontools output if you want a better idea of what's
actually going on within the drive.
--
-WD
- Posted by Dan P. on January 13th, 2005
"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:8tWdnQan0fIBJnjcRVn-sg@comcast.com...
I never used smartmontools, so I don't have any output to post. I used HDD
Regenerator, which found 200+ bad sectors and repaired them. I think most
hard drive utilities just block off the bad sectors so the OS won't write
any files to them. But this program supposedly fixes the bad sectors so
they can be used again.
I'll take my chances...I'm not too worried. I've had much worse things
happen to hard drives that I've recovered from. One time, I even had my MBR
boot sectors corrupted. Now that was a doozy. First of all, at the time,
this was my only computer. So I had to do go to a neighbor's house and do
research on the web. I believe the solution was to use a program called
PowerQuest which boots itself from a floppy and repairs the MBR.
And that happened on the computer I'm using as I speak (er type). That was
a few years ago...and it's still going strong!
Dan
- Posted by Will Dormann on January 13th, 2005
Dan P. wrote:
Well that's why I suggested you run it!
If you trust it, then that's fine. Just don't say you haven't been
warned... 
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-WD
- Posted by Dan P. on January 13th, 2005
"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:45udnf20MbcHS3jcRVn-uw@comcast.com...
You know you're probably jinxing me and my hard drive's gonna crash and burn
tomorrow.
Dan
- Posted by Gene E. Bloch on January 15th, 2005
"Dan P." <dperlbergerN0SPAM@ec.rr.com> wrote in
news:JPnFd.10267$hQ6.2406015@twister.southeast.rr. com:
LOL!
At least you'll know who to blame...
Not me :-)
Gino
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