I am interested editing DVD-RW to remove commercials, etc. What would
be the best software to use ?



Thanks

"Gato" <nospaminnocentcat@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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Hi

If you are creating the DVD-RWs in a set-top recorder using the VR mode, you
can edit on the disc in the recorder or on the PC, if you want to edit on a
PC use Ulead DVD MovieFactory 3 Disc Creator edition, this will edit on the
disc. www.ulead.com

Regards

Philip

On 2004-12-11, Philip <philip@nospam.com> wrote:

"Gato" <nospaminnocentcat@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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I like VideoReDo www.VideoReDo.com
It's fast, frame accurate and can fix most lip sync issues.

Luck;
Ken

lew@csus_abcdefg.edu wrote in news:slrncrm96f.4v6.lew@crane.li-po.edu:

<snip>

It's what civilised DVD recorders use to store recorded video Typically
used on -RW (though some also support -video mode recording) and -RAM,
never on +RW. Don't bother with a recorder that does not have -VR mode
(IMO)

Actually, don't bother with any recordable DVD, if all you want to do is
timeshift, simpily use a PVR or HDD based recorder.

--
Trevor S


"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
-Albert Einstein

In message <pcadnTjBz7EU9SbcRVn-rA@giganews.com>, at 15:37:56 on Sat, 11
Dec 2004, Ken Maltby <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> remarked:
I've downloaded and tried it, but it takes the .vob files made by my
DVDR, and turns them into .mpg!

Making a DVD from that seems to be less than straightforward (I have
Cyberlink Powerproducer, but can't fly it well enough to make anything
useful yet).
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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DVD compliant MPEG is what DVDs are made of. There
is no such video that is vob, the .vob are files that hold a
number of the components of the DVD structure, not just
Audio & Video. If you do any thing to any of the parts of a
..vob file you will have to make a new .vob. If you remove
the commercials, you will need to re-author the DVD.

(For the nit-pickers: You can introduce cell instructions
to skip to another cell, thus the player never plays the skipped
part. Your commercials would have to start and end at cell
boundaries and the space on your DVD is wasted.)

Using DVD compliant MPEG is the most straightforward
way to make/Author a DVD. You may want to move your
video from the more expensive RW to the less costly
DVD+/-R, for your archival purposes. And the menus you
can make on your PC are much more impressive and adaptable
than those off your DVD Recorder. Your "Powerproducer"
has an author function, if I recall correctly.

Luck;
Ken

In message <7amdnUMGqP6NeCDcRVn-sQ@giganews.com>, at 12:53:33 on Mon, 13
Dec 2004, Ken Maltby <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> remarked:
Seems to be a bit more than "just waving VideoReDo at it". That seems to
be only about a tenth of the job:-((

Well, I have cut a programme down to about 45 minutes by removing the
Ads.

First attempt at Powerproducer created a disk in about an hour that did
absolutely noting in the DVD player.

Second attempt took over two hours and has produced a DVD that shows a
title page with a flashing thumbnail in the middle, but doesn't play on
the DVD machine.

Plays on my PC, but the sound isn't in synch with the picture, by
several seconds.

It seems to me that this technology is *extremely* immature.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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Perhaps, "PowerProducer" "is *extremely* immature" but DVD
Authoring is not. Give the 30day trial of TMPGEnc DVD Author
www.pegasys-inc.com or DVDLab (Google for the URL) a try.
Authoring is a simple process that only takes 15 - 20 min, with
decent software.

I use VideoReDo to prepare MPEGs for TMPGEnc DVD Author
(TDA) instead of using the "Chapter cut edit" within TDA. I save
up 6 43min episodes of my favorite TV series, on my hard drive;
then author a DVD with TDA. I put each episode in its own track
and use the shows recurring intro as a motion background, for the
one main menu, I use. I double click on the track box and change
it from "Untitled track X" to the episodes title. That way when I
get to the "Create menu" section the titles are already there.

I have made my own "Theme" for each series I'm collecting. It
means that, in the end, for the "Create menu" step I just update the
episode numbers in the overall title, and rearrange the individual
track/episode titles (I use a text only format - no thumbnails) so
they look good, and that's it. My time with a normal DVD is
maybe 5 min. <15min more for TDA to make a full DVD
structure on the hard drive then <10 to actually burn the DVD+R.

Luck;
Ken

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in
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<snip>

With all due respect it is a VERY mature technology. DVD's have been
around for ages (comparatively speaking), I have been authoring my own for
over three years.

You do need to understand the complexities of what you are doing.

I use TmpgEnc's DVD Author for quick and nasty edits (not frame accurate),
it is very simple (IMO) to use. Might I sugges you start with that.

I use Mpeg Video Wizard for when I want more accuracy and control (trade
off for increased complexity in the application) and then author with
whatever authoring App takes my fancy at the time.

--
Trevor S


"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
-Albert Einstein

In message <G_qdnfuNvpQApCPcRVn-gg@giganews.com>, at 18:54:23 on Mon, 13
Dec 2004, Ken Maltby <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> remarked:
That worked a lot better, and made a DVD that both my PC and DVDR
appliance were happy with. Thanks for the pointer.

--
Roland Perry

In message <Xns95C014D646F86billgatescom@130.133.1.4>, at 16:02:54 on
Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Trevor S <bill@gates.com> remarked:

That is time in the marketplace, not maturity.

One of the signs of a mature technology is one where the user *doesn't*
need to understand the complexities, but merely instructs a utility to
cope with the complexities for him.

I've now used TmpgEnc Author to author a DVD from a previous edit, and
to make a new edit. The functionality seems OK, but the User Interface
is a nightmare. Meanwhile, I have consigned Cyberlink Powerproducer to
the bin. Much better UI, but simply doesn't work properly.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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If you don't like TDA's interface, try DVDLab's most people find
one of the two to be very intuitive.

Luck;
Ken

In message <19554776.24252848@anonymous.com>, at 11:32:16 on Wed, 15 Dec
2004, Joe <dont@spam.me> remarked:
I didn't know it wasn't working until the two hours had come and gone,
and I was able to examine the results.

All I was doing is (somewhat naively perhaps) trying to use the
authoring software that was bundled with my DVD writer.

Nero (another item bundled with the DVD writer) seems to be OK, as is
the Cyberlink Player, but their authoring software would appear to be a
complete crock.

I'm currently testing alternatives, and will post a report later today.
TMPGenc seems to be better, but still has difficulties with DVDs written
by my (admittedly cheapo) DVDR.
--
Roland Perry

In message <QKydnbZuAZpZm13cRVn-ow@giganews.com>, at 03:41:48 on Wed, 15
Dec 2004, Ken Maltby <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> remarked:
Hmm, spent half an hour grappling with DVDLab and can't make it do
anything. Haven't got a clue how to edit or glue together the *.VOBs
from the DVDR.

And still struggling to get TMPGEnc to co-operate.

Here's the problem. I have a DVDR with two episodes of "Frost", which
plays perfectly in the DVD player and under Cyberlink PowerDVD.

The "Windows" directory says it has:

VTS_01_01 1,048,574 KB )
VTS_01_02 1,048,574 KB ) First Episode
VTS_01_03 1,048,574 KB ]
VTS_01_04 1,048,574 KB ]
VTS_01_01 40,264 KB ] Second episode

I can import the five files into the DVD-lab "asset bin", but can't find
what happens next, and don't understand what it means by the various
"demultiplexing" options. All I want to do is edit out the ads and
remaster into two files.

TMPGEnc seems to think the very same DVD has things called:

Title 1 2hr 00min 11sec 2118MB
Title 2 1hr 34min 51sec 1656MB
Title 4 2hr 00min 11sec 2118MB
Title 5 1hr 34min 51sec 1656MB

What happened to Title "3"
Why are the two programs duplicated?
What happened to the last 30 minutes of the second episode?

Trying to Add Title 2 gives an error "Stream Reading Error".

Meanwhile VideoReDo seems quite happy to edit and glue together the
programme halves, which TMPGEnc will attempt to master ....

but ... the "DVD Writing Tool" has the "Write DVD" button greyed out.
The DVD+RW I'm using has been erased by my DVDR appliance, but obviously
not well enough for TMPGE; but the "Erase DVD+/-RW" button gives an
error. Stalemate!!! So it's time to burn a brand new DVD+R I suppose.
Oops "Internal Error DVD Drive Fatal".

Nothing left to do but abort, reboot, and spend another 20 minutes
having a second attempt (which was fine).

All in all, lots of rather wobbly software.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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Are you sure the last above isn't VTS_02_01 ? That
would make sense as you should have two "Titles".


I would not "Glue together" your edited clips, just have
VideoReDo place the clips for each episode in its own
folder. Then use the "Add files" button in TDA.

these episodes, then it would be cheaper to transfer them from the
more expensive RW disks to - or + R disks.

As to TDA, you might consider that it isn't wobbling for
the rest of us.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:11:51 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

I record on DVD+RW and have also noted that the titles presented by
TDA are doubled.

I have had a problem getting the audio to work in some cases.

The problem was that I couldn't get TDA to read in the audio from
DVD+RW discs after I edited the title by hiding some chapters in the
recorder and making the disc "compatible".

The titles appear twice in TDA and selecting the first one plays the
edited version and, altough TDA list the audio correctly as AC3 in the
selection box, it then says "No Audio" (and the result is without
audio).

The solution was to select the the second version of the title. Then
the audio worked but also any hidden chapters was included. (Chapter
marks stayed, though, so it was easy to edited them out).

With another disc I had splitted a title on the recorder with the
result that TDA gave no sound on the second title no matter which
version I imported.

Since then I have installed an update of TDA, but I haven't tried if
it fixes the problem.

In your case, you could try using only the last two listed titles.

When you import a title and let TDA copy it to the HD, it will combine
the relevant VOBs and usually creates only one .mpg file per title.
These files can then be imported into other editing programs if you
like.
/Jan

In message <24254576.15323192@anonymous.com>, at 17:20:18 on Wed, 15 Dec
2004, Joe <dont@spam.me> remarked:
Can we make sure we are using the same terms?

My "cheap DVDR" is a silver set-top box that cost £130

Is your "cheap DVD-R" a blank disc for 50p?

I don't want to combine 2 DVDs, all I've ever been trying to do is copy
two episodes of a TV show from one DVD onto another.

--
Roland Perry

In message <19530368.24250256@anonymous.com>, at 17:16:30 on Wed, 15 Dec
2004, Joe <dont@spam.me> remarked:
Sorry, cut and paste error - the last line should have been VTS_01_05
--
Roland Perry