I'm trying to understand the OTA, High Def / Standard Def, and
DVD Recorders (with hard drives).

If I buy a HDD DVDR with a ATSC tuner and if a program is being
shown in HD, will I still be able to record it? I've read that
most OTA recorders won't record HD, so will it record it as SD?

TIA

bruceh wrote:
Anybody?

bruceh wrote:
I have no idea what an ATSC tuner is :O)

I did a little googling and it looks like it records it as SD. I
wouldn't say this 100% as I don't own an HD source.

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bruceh wrote:
The recorder will tune in a ATSC HD channel, but will record it in
standard defination.

Here is a link with more info.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=599173

-Bill

On 2008-04-10, bruceh <bruceh@nospam.net> wrote:
Depends.......the program can have a "no copying" code (5C) embedded in the
stream which means you won't be able to record. the stream can have a
"copy once" so that you can "record"; also some programs may not have any
"copy protection" encoded which means you can record it.

But if you plan to output from the DVDR to a DVD recorder, then the format
would be SD; unless some new tech & 3rd party firmware/rom can get HD out.

xeaglecrest@att.net wrote:
Thanks Bill... I took a look at that thread and it's a long one.
I think I got it now.

student wrote:
Is the "no copying" or "copy once" being set on the current
DTV broadcasts? If it has, does it happen on just movies, or
does it happen on regular prime time shows or any PBS shows?

That's the answer I was looking for. Thanks.

On 2008-04-10, bruceh <bruceh@nospam.net> wrote:
That is a good question & no one seem to know the "real answer" as it is
"all the above"; sometimes the "no copy" is a mistake & not "honored" by
some; e.g sometimes a SA DVDR won't record while a Motorola would &
vice-versa. Sometimes it is the provider, eg comcast won't allow recording
the on-demand, mostly. sometimes it is the network sending the
video stream, or sometimes it is the local station doing it.

The avsforum will provide all kinds of answers & people reporting why one
can record & another can't.......

I don't think PBS stops recording, as I've recorded a couple of the Masterpiece
theater of Jane Austin's stuff, in "HD" format, i.e.the local PBS HD channel.
I've also recorded a few of the DiscoveryHD Theater showings & have sent
them to my DVD recorder, in SD mode of course, but still looked very good

Will be interesting to see if the Disney HD will allow recording, just for a
test........

Paul Heslop wrote:
ATSC is the over the air digital protocol - it is the replacement for
NTSC that we have used for over the air analog for, what, 70 years.

Does there exist a way to put HD material (in HD, not downconverted)
on a DVD? On a DVD<insert + or - or control-G or whatever here>R
or RW?

In spite of the names, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray aren't DVDs. But even
then, do recordable HD-DVDs or recordable Blu-Ray discs exist, along
with recorders to record on them?

Rick Merrill wrote:
ah, thanks Rick. I'm in the UK so we're on a different thing
altogether

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Gordon Burditt wrote:
yes, there are both standalone recorders and recorders for computers.
obviously price is still a tad steep.

try googling blu-ray recorder or such.

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student wrote:
Thanks. I think I'll go order a unit in the next week or so...
Guess I'll spending my time figuring out how I need to
move all my cables around!

Paul Heslop wrote:
....
"Between 2008- 2012, television services in the UK will go completely
digital, TV region by TV region (The exception is Whitehaven in Cumbria
which became the first place to switch in October 2007). The old
analogue television signal will be switched off and viewers will need to
convert or upgrade their TV equipment to receive digital signals,
whether through their aerial, by satellite, cable or broadband."
-
http://www.digitaltelevision.gov.uk/
UK Government Digital Television


Will the UK digital use ATSC? Will the US and the UK now be divided
only by a common digital protocol? :-)

Rick Merrill wrote:
The UK and much of Europe is using the DVB-T system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital...ial_television

Rick Merrill wrote:
:O) Nah, we're still PAL I think

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bruceh wrote:
yeah, that's the very thing.

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:30:36 GMT, Paul Heslop
<paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

DVB-T (-S and -C)

I think that should be expressed as "still 50Hz".
/Jan

Jan B wrote:
and it REALLY hertz!

:O)

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Paul Heslop wrote:
Go to your room!