In order to transfer video (analog converted to digital) to Toast to
burn it to DVD, I need enough space to do two hours of video at a time.

This is how much space I have now:

Hard Drive Info
Kind: Volume
Format: Mac OS Extended
Capacity: 57.26 GB
Available: 36.32 GB
Used: 20.94 GB on disk (22,486,904,832 bytes)

Barely enough, if that, as it is. I also have to upgrade my system
(from Mac OSX 10.2.8 to 10.3.9), install one new browser, update
another, upgrade Toast from 6 to 7, and update at least Quicktime if
not iDVD and iMovie, all of which will take up space!

What kinds of internal and external drives are available, and how much
space will they give me? I'd love an internal one as I have devices
connected to every USB and FireWire port as it is and of course have
had to make spaces for all those devices, but if an external drive is
really better for some reason I am open to that as well.

Thanks for any advice.

Cori

cmashieldscapting@hotmail.com wrote:
What kind of Mac do you have? I believe you can get external drives of
at least 1 TB, or more now, which should be plenty big. I don't know
what internal drives are available. However, my iMac G5 has a 250 GB
internal drive, and my PM Dualie 2.0 has 160 GB. Your mileage may vary,
depending on which Mac you own.

--
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dfritzin@hotmail.com wrote:

It's a Power Mac G4. People recommended I buy an external FireWire
drive, but every USB and FireWire port on it now has a device
connected, and much of the space around it is taken up with housing
these devices, so if I could get an internal drive which would be just
as good as an external I'd appreciate it, but if an external has vast
advantages I'll bite the bullet and get the external, thanks.

Cori

In article <1137384057.673904.247200@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
<cmashieldscapting@hotmail.com> wrote:
You can run out of ports with USB as each has to have it's own
connection.

However with firewire you can usually just chain them together so
you can have many FW devices with only one connector on the
computer.

All the FW peripherals I have do have two connectors so you can
daisy chain them. Check your devices and if you have some with
pass-thru and others with just one connector put the single
connector device at the end of the chain.

Bill

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:55:00 -0600, Bill Vermillion wrote (in article
<It687t.Ds3@wjv.com>):

I'm puzzled in that I have a Belkin USB 2 hub with seven USB devices attached
and everything is working just fine.

--
James L. Ryan -- TaliesinSoft

TaliesinSoft wrote:
problem is the power. I have two of those belkin USB2 7 port tetra hub.
you can daisy chain the hubs together. I use two power cords but the
two hubs are connected by USB2 cables and only ONE cable connected to
the computer. anyway I'm not sure what his problem is. Unless he is
using ALL his USB devices at once he can disconnect one and connect a
new drive to it. He may need to go with his operations stuff.
(browser, quicktime... on an internal drive and use an external drive to
store his video. currently external drives go up to 100 gigs. that
should be more than enough. I have a replay DVR with a 40 or 60 gig
hard drive and it could handle 55 hours of TV shows when empty.

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Bill Vermillion wrote:

That works, and they don't run slower or short out or anything? How
scary!

Cori

In article <1137374170.460830.161230@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
cmashieldscapting@hotmail.com wrote:

Two hours of video takes up about 9 GB of space. Since you have 36 GB of
space available, it's difficult for me to see your problem.

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In article <tacitr-66FE55.09565616012006@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com>,
tacit <tacitr@aol.com> wrote:

Tacit,

Your math is a bit off. DV Stream video takes up approximately
200MB/minute -- two hours will consume over 24GB.

--
Spenser

Depending on what kind of internal interface you have, I would
recommend the fastest hard drive you can afford - 10,000 rpm preferably
- and SATA if possible. This should give you the best possible
performance for video work, or this is how I understand it anyway.
Should be able to get a 72GB pretty cheap.

"tacit" <tacitr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:tacitr-66FE55.09565616012006@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com...
Sure, AFTER its been converted from the original DV capture into compressed
MPEG-2 during the DVD authoring process.

In article <1137402200.010193.186500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
<cmashieldscapting@hotmail.com> wrote:
Because that's the way Firewire was designed.

You can connect up to 16 devices in a row [per node] with a limit
of 63 devices over four nodes.

In USB you can chain hubs to together and have up to 127 devices
but you'll need power supplies for each hub.

The Firewire comes in two style of connectors - 6 pin and 4 pin.
The 6 pin has power and control and the 4 pin is simpler - such as
that used in video cameras and digital cameras.

FW will always run at 400Mbs [or the new 800Mbs] so your speed is
guaranteed to be constant.

Firewire is also known as IEEE-1394 - which is the true
specification name. In Sony devices it's called I-link.

USB power from the PC is a maximum of 500 milli-amps while
Firewire delivers up to 1.5 amps [ or 1500 milli-amps for direct
comparison].

The USB has a maximum transfer of 480Mbs and while it's raw speed
is faster than FW it takes more computer power. And FW devices can
talk to each other without having to have the computer do any work.
The latter is sort of like what SCSI was >supposed< to do, but I've
never seen implemented.

However not all FW ports that >are built on motherboards< work as
they should so you are better of with a separate card, or have a
built in FW as I have on my fairly high-end SoundBlaster.

If you do a lot of video and/or attached hard drives you should
have fewer problems with FW - and the operative word there is
'should'.

Bill
Bill

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In article <160120060708368470%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.inval id>,
sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:
And the DVI output from home video cameras is a bit under that -
and my ADVC 300 runs about to about 9GB per-hour a bit under the
regular DV but still a lot.

With the OPs 36GB space he can capture, but when it comes to
editing and building DVD images he is going to run out of space
before he gets too far.

I added a 160GB drive that I use only for video capture, editing
and DVD building - and I have to keep up and make sure I clean
often.

Even at regular DVD sizes I suck up about 14GB doing work.

Take the 4+GB for the orginal data that is read in from a DVD
source [such as my DVR], another 4GB in the editing mode
that builds an .mpg file, and at least that much [sometimes more]
for building the ISO image.

Bill

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

My computer is a Mac G4 and this is what my System Profiler says about
it:

Hardware Overview:

+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|
|
| Machine speed : 867 MHz
|
| Bus speed : 133 MHz
|
| Number of processors : 2
|
| L2 cache size : 256K (times 2)
|
| L3 cache size : 1MB (times 2)
|
| Machine model : Power Mac G4 (version = 2.1)
|
| Boot ROM info : 4.4.6f2


Cori

Not to put a fine edge on the problem, but you do not seem to understand
that the more storage space you have on your computer (read hard drive)
the better off you are when handling video.

Get thee to a computer store and see if you can get a 250 - 300 gig hard
drive that will work in/with your G4.

If you persist in asking silly questions like "do I need more hard drive
space" on this news group, the hard core experts will eat you for lunch.

Regards,

Marv

cmashieldscapting@hotmail.com wrote:

I took his question as not does he need more (not enough info to answer
that anyway, if anyone could for another) but how best to add HDD space.

I'd go with some sort of external firewire drive (e.g., the 300 GB unit
I have on my desktop for mass storage).

Marv Soloff wrote:

In article <0001HW.BFF095B60001707DF0284550@news.supernews.co m>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@mac.com> wrote:

You can also daisy chain hubs. I have 6 devices on 2 powered hubs.

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Phil Wheeler wrote:
Go to the head of the class, Phil! My question was not "Do I need more
hard drive space?" but, I ABSOLUTELY need more! Short of buying a new
computer, MUST it come in the form of an external drive, and if so HOW
do I connect it without disconnecting something else every time I want
to use it?

(Thanks to you guys I now know that if I end up ordering an external
FireWire drive to also order some type of unit or hub to connect more
than one device at a time.)

I'd like to go internal so as not to have one more device hooked up,
but I don't want to mess up my existing Hard Drive, so external may be
best.

Cori

you wont mess up your main drive with an inernal drive the ide
controller will take care of that . if you are uncomfortable with
opening the case up find a mac dealer or even a reputable pc dealer can
install and format using your disc utility and pay them for their time
it shouldn't be much and some may do it at no charge if you purchase the
hd from them .

dan

On 1/17/2006, cmashieldscapting@hotmail.com managed to type:
From your many, many posts, I have come to believe that this whole
thing has been stressing you too much. I am considering advising you to
give up video as a hobby, and to take up a simpler hobby, such as
learning to play the uillean pipes...

HTH,
Gino

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