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Standalone DVD recorder differences...
Posted by Large Farva on July 12th, 2005


Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.

I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for $198.

Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that the
$100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?


Posted by mozark on July 12th, 2005


First, NEVER buy at Wal-Mart.

Second, this is one to get:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance




Posted by Large Farva on July 12th, 2005



"mozark" <mozzie22@cozy.org> wrote in message
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I like WalMart because if I buy something there and I don't like it for
whatever reason or it breaks all I have to do is take it back and get my
money back or an exchange..receipt or not. In warranty or not.

Say what you want about Walmart, but try that at BestBuy/CircuitCity/any
e-tailer.


Yeah I'm sure it's nice..really. I'd love to have it. But what do I get for
that extra $150? If I have something I want to do a REALLY nice transfer of,
I have a computer with a DVD burner that will run circles around a
standalone, I just want something simple to dump a VHS onto a DVD for when I
don't need nice menus or editing or the fancy stuff I do with the computer.
I just want a DVD version of my VHS..so why should I get that $250 recorder
instead of a $100 recorder? Seriously..I know nothing about standalones
other than I need it to do DVD-R and I don't need a hard drive in it.




Posted by Graham on July 12th, 2005


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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote:

[super mega snip]
Cheers!

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Graham
My Website - http://www.thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk

Posted by Large Farva on July 12th, 2005



"Graham" <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
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But WHY? Tell me why I should buy it? Does it make recordings that look $100
better than the iLo/Lite-On unit that Walmart sells? It's only $50 less than
that Toshiba...why not go for the Toshiba?



Posted by nolsar on July 12th, 2005


Buy the cheapest, all electronics these days are built cheap,unless you`re
buying really high-end at very high prices.
the only difference between a $250 toshiba and a $100 classic or whatever is
the brand name (toshiba to classic).I bet if you were to open up the 2,the
parts would be almost identical.



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Posted by Justin on July 12th, 2005


I would suggest you get one with a hard drive. You'll never have to worry
about having a blank dvd installed when you want to record a show.

"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Thinking about picking up a standalone DVD recorder to capture the stuff I
don't want to take the time to do with the computer.

I'll cut to the chase and use WalMart as an example..they have an iLo
(LiteOn or Cyberhome..whichever) for $98 and Pioneer and Panasonic for $198.

Basically..other than build quality..what do the $200 recorders do that the
$100 recorder can't? Any good forms dealing with these recorders?



Posted by Alpha on July 12th, 2005



"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Contrary to what some people say, there are rather big differences in the
quality of recording on DVD recorders. This is connected to the type of
noise filtering, the quality of the Analog to Digital Conversion
(particularly the quality re the tuner for cable), etc. However, price does
not map to quality, necessarily.

There are a large number of complaints about the reliability of the Ilo 500x
model.

Panasonic or Pioneer (the Panasonic AD conversion is superior, IMO).




Posted by Alpha on July 12th, 2005


As a postscript, you can always get the cheapest unit, find out if you like
it, and return it if not. That is another way to think.


Posted by Frank on July 13th, 2005


That Toshiba recorder cant do DVD+R/RW discs. Plus you cant record from HBO
and most premium channels because of copy protection


Posted by Ken Maltby on July 13th, 2005



"Frank" <nospam@email.com> wrote in message
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Another approach is to consider the refurbished market. I
use an RCA DRC8000N which has component (Y Pb Pr)
output and makes great DVD+RWs. It uses the Philips
SAA7118H A/D chip and has a built-in TBC that improves
the copy of taped material. It has digital audio outputs, both
coax and optical.

It also has an RF tuner and can use the "Guide Plus+"
data. It came with IR cables to control Cable and Satellite
boxes. (I have a DirecTiVo and don't use the tuner)

(One caveat for this unit though, I never got it to consistently
make DVD+R disks. I didn't try very hard and only used a
couple of different media, as I just use the unit to record to
DVD+RW which I bring to my PC for authoring with a
better menu and to be recorded onto a printed DVD-R.)

You might find a similar unit, that matches your needs, for
about the $145 I paid for mine, or even less.

Luck;
Ken




Posted by Alpha on July 13th, 2005



"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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THe TBC and digital filtering anc connectivity is standard now on almost all
mainstream units.



Posted by Z Man on July 13th, 2005



"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
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The feature set could be different. I wanted a machine that also had a VCR,
to eliminate one component, ease connections, and enable me to transfer old
VHS tapes to DVD. Another feature I wanted was media flexibility. My machine
can record to DVD+-R/RW. You might even want DVD-RAM. Lastly, I needed a
Firewire input for my digital camcorder. Some of the less expensive models
don't have Firewire input. I doubt that picture quality is substantially
different among different brands, but the included features can vary
considerably.



Posted by LeCorbusier on July 13th, 2005



"Justin" <nospamnot@spammernot.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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LiteOn(5005?),had horribly primitive TV tuners,not supporting any of these:
-Channel sorting
-Station ID
-VPS
-ShowView
-Direct Recording
Hard to handle 30+ stations under these conditions.



Posted by Large Farva on July 13th, 2005



"LeCorbusier" <themroc@aol.com> wrote in message
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A TV tuner is something I would never ever useso that's a moot point. I
haven't used a TV tuner in over 15 years!



Posted by Graham on July 13th, 2005


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"Large Farva" <none@nospam.com> wrote:

[snip]
in England)
Cheers!

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Graham
My Website - http://www.thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk

Posted by nobody on July 13th, 2005


Must be pretty boring stuck on 1 channel and not using a TV tuner to change
it.

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"LeCorbusier" <themroc@aol.com> wrote in message
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A TV tuner is something I would never ever useso that's a moot point. I
haven't used a TV tuner in over 15 years!




Posted by Large Farva on July 14th, 2005


Yes, my TV never leaves channel 3. However there are over 500 channels of
DirectTV and 4 DVD changers with 300 DVD's in each all connected to that
channel 3. Hardly boring.


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Posted by Bill Vermillion on July 17th, 2005


In article <yuCdncYaEN7VmUnfRVn-vw@rogers.com>, nolsar
<nolsar@rogers.com> wrote:

The only differences as you state are not quite true.

Some of the cheaper units will not record the audio in stereo.
Some don't have have Firewire/I-Link inputs if you want to transfer
from a camcorder that has one.

Personally any one I'd use would have to have a tuner that does
record the stereo soundtrack, and at least 1 video/audio input.

My Philips has two composite video inputs and two Ext [the way they
label them] which are firewire/i-link.

You have to look carefully and sometimes get a someone to show you
the manuals to be sure of what you are getting.



--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

Posted by Large Farva on July 17th, 2005



"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IJqx89.8Hz@wjv.com...
I've never heard of a DVD recorder that records in only mono...can you link
to the one you're talking about?




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