Maybe this is not the right newsgroup to post my question, but i couldn't
find a better one, as far this is a security question.

My problem is that i want to make a Ghost Image of the Boot Partition (C
and want to place it on a FAT32 partition of a second HDD.

XP Pro recognizes it as FAT32 and i can do everything, f.e. copying files to
it.
So, you should think it can't go wrong. However, when i boot up with a W98
Bootdiskette and then place the Ghost-floppy in the FDD and do Image To
Partition i can't locate the FAT32-partition, it only shows all the
NTFS-partitions.

I tried everything and had never such problems before. I even tried it on
another PC and there it works fine. It recognizes the FAT32 as it has to be.

So what could be causing this problem that i can't write the image to the
FAT32 because Ghost doesn't see it, but does see only the NTFS? Can someone
help me with this?

Ranger wrote:

Take Ghost out of the picture. When you boot with your Win98 floppy,
can you see the FAT32 partition of the second HDD? Is the 2nd HDD on
a standard PATA controller?

Not sure how this is even remotely related to security, though...


-WD

"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:zf2xc.52704$DG4.19278@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
No, that's the point. I can't see it then, but do see it in XP!

Is the 2nd HDD on
It's a 6,5 Gb HDD, on IDE2 with several partitions, all NTFS except the one
i do need for the image. But why can i see it in XP? That's strange.

As said i wasn't sure if this msg belongs here, so if it angers somebody,
apologise for it ..

Ranger wrote:

What's the exact partition layout of the drive?
Run "findpart tables" and paste the output here.
http://www.partitionsupport.com/utilities.htm

Since you mention you have other partition types, the layout of them
could very well decide whether or not you can access it from DOS.


-WD

"Ranger" <neuh-geen-mail@geenzin.nl> wrote in
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what version of ghost are you using?

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Hey,

I know my reply won't be very helpful to you, but as you mention the
bad "G" name, I fell compelled to say...

....that Ghost sucks royally anyway. We have to use it in our IT
support team (Volkswagen has a corporate license for it) and all of us
(that's around 200 employees of our support company) agree that the
single and only advantage of Ghost is that it's fast in imaging
partitions via network. We regularly encounter images that are corrupt
despite Ghost not having reported a single error, no hdd but the
primary master even recognized, et cetera ad nauseam.
I'm sure others here will be more helpful with your immediate problem,
but for what it's worth, I recommend you dump it and use some other
imaging program.

Okay, back to lurking mode. No offense meant.


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"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in
news:2il3daFo2panU9@uni-berlin.de:

sorry to hear that. i use it exclusivery and have no problems. do you use
the advanced switches when ghosting comples partitions? "-ntic -ntil -z"
and so on. makes a difference.

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"Secure Lockdown" <secure_lockdown@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I din't change anything and use it as i did before with my other PC, which
gave me no probs at all ..

"Secure Lockdown" <secure_lockdown@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9501D4D6AD1Bsecurelockdown2123@66.185.95.1 04...
Norton Ghost 2003

Go in to XP and set the securities on the Fat32. I suspect
XP failed to give admin rights to that partition. Under
Tools, Options, View .. scroll down to Use simple
File Sharing and uncheck it, then give full rights to any
user who needs it. Also, did you create that partition
with Ghost? If so, then it is a specialized partition type
and W98 will not know what it is. Same thing can happen
with DriveImage ... and any re-sizing of partition programs. The partition
type is a "DriveImage" partition.
AND .. !! ... Norton just bought out DriveQuest, so
let the fun begin. I've seen this little problem you are
having a bunch. One system will have securities set,
the next ( identical ) machine will not ?? Hell of mess
these programs changing the partition type and lousing
up the securites.

johns

johns wrote:


Nonsense. FAT32 has no such permission capability.


-WD

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, that is clear for me, otherwise i didn't post this in here ;-)
See my posting and read the problem of only locating the NTFS-parts

Hi,

Well, I was the one who spent several days examining the available
options of ghost, because I was the one in charge of the image strategy
for several production servers here - and aside from one option that's
necessary to correctly restore the (rather weirdly partitioned) servers
to a blank hdd, I found none of them of much use. Wait, that's not
entirely true - one of them we do need for more or less correct
restoration of the image (FAT 64k clusters if memory serves). Of
course, we don't use the most recent ghost version - again, Volkswagen
sets the limits here - but that's the facts.

Umm... I see that I wasn't very specific regarding one thing. Rats.
Okay, better late than never:

In the office support team we don't have that many problems as far as I
can tell - it's the production support team I'm in that regularly
encounters massive problems. For some reason, though the PCs
controlling the assembly lines basically consist of standard hardware,
just wired into a different environment, ghost behaves VERY differently
there. Ever had this feeling of "I want to disappear!" when you are
trying - in vain! - to get a production PC running again, with several
of the workers and their superiors standing behind you and every MINUTE
without a functioning PC will cost ¤ 5,000 after the buffers went empty?
Our record was somewhere around 24 hours, fortunately with a PC that
could be replaced by some more manual work by the production crews,
trying again and again to restore the image, never knowing why the
§$%)(%& it won't boot, then suddenly it booted as if there never was
any problem... and to this very day we don't know why it failed for a
whole day.


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Hey Leythos,

May well be the case. As I wrote in another recent posting, I admit I
forgot to mention something... silly me.


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Ranger wrote:

Is there some reason you have not posted your findpart output like I
requested?


-WD

"Ranger" <neuh-geen-mail@geenzin.nl> wrote in news:40c5aba4$0$343
$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl:

i only have experience with the corp. edition. i remember having strange
prob's with NTFS with 6.x but they were all fixed with 7.x. 2003 should
also not give you any issues.

questions --> you say you can see the NTFS parts but not th FAT32 parts,
right?

#1 - are you sure it's not the other way around?

#2 - the NTFS parts - it there anything wierd on them, i.e. dynamic disks,
compressions - e.,t.c..?



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Secure Lockdown <secure_lockdown@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in
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also, can you run this on the drive. it's the best part mgr i know that is
accurate.

http://www.ranish.com/part/

let me know the results.

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Does on my system. I'm sitting here looking at it. It
is not a true fat32 ... it is a DriveImage partition. These
programs change the partition type, and that is his
problem. These "securities" are set by choice in the
program, and they conflict with XP settings. However,
sometimes XP can "fix" those settings ... sometimes
not, and I get to redo a lab. And, resizing these partitions
is impossible because the "resizing" program cannot
see the partition type. I'm not talking about Windows
security settings. But supposedly, XP can reset those
"compatible" securities on the image partition. ???
I called one group ( Euro ) on this, and they said they
are working on making it more compatible, but
every single one of these imaging programs is incompatible with the next.
Try combining them and
see for yourself. Combine PartitionExpert ( Euro )
with DriveImage, and you will see what I'm talking
about. The partition types will conflict.

johns

johns wrote:

OK, well I don't think the OP is talking about a DriveImage partition.
He says it's FAT32, but until he posts the partinfo report it's
anybody's guess!


-WD

That's right. I think he created that partition with Ghost
.... and possibly his Ghost is actually DriveImage repackaged.
They gotta clean that up. It is a mess.

johns