Hi

Can someone please point me in the appropriate direction for some JSP440
documentation?

I have googled, and all I get is small references to the manual but not the
manual.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers

JM

In article <1g8rfqk.13skm0621hr6hN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, usenet-
ucs@malloc.co.uk says...
since I have no clue what JSP440 is, and i haven't googled it (yet) to
find out.... it's rather scary (from a former naval crypto tech's point
of view) that someone that _doesn't_ know what it is, would be searching
(usenet none-the-less!) for information about it!




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"...I see stupid people."

I have the relevant clearance, but am not actively engaged on any relevant
assignments at the moment.

JSP440, appears to be being discussed more in potential recruitment
noticfications, and as this particular document is new to me I am trying to
find it.

A google search throws up plenty of references to it, just not the
specification itself. Hence the request to Newsgroups.

I would not expect anyone to share classified information via this medium,
but I would also not expect my local military instalation to have copies of
it sitting in reception. So short on asking for help from appropriate
public places, I am at a bit of a loss.

Thanks for the comments thus far.

JM

What particular bit are you interested in, I'm sure if your reasons were
explained, at least an overview could be given by the custodian of the
document.

Regards
"JM" <jm@mindless.com> wrote in message
news:c07n92$12uvte$1@ID-210513.news.uni-berlin.de...

simply what is covered, who is the custodian, and classification,

which may help to explain why it is hard to find.


"Spider" <Alarmeng@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c08l6c$hd9$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...

This is going to sound facetious but ...

In article <c07n92$12uvte$1@ID-210513.news.uni-berlin.de>, JM
<jm@mindless.com> writes
There lies the problem. Protectively marked matter is only released on
a "need to know" basis. Having the clearance is not enough. If really
have the clearance then you should have had the corresponding training
and should know this.

When you say you have clearance - do YOU have the clearance or did you
work for an employer who had the clearance? Most likely the latter if
you never received any security procedure training. In that case, if
you are no longer working on the project requiring clearance, your
clearance has ceased. If the former, and you have changed employers
since you had the clearance, again your clearance has ceased. (That's
roughly how it works).

Once you need to see it, you will be entitled to do so. Bear in mind,
however, that JSPs can be multi-section documents. You will still only
be entitled to see the sections you need to see! (Or pages or
paragraphs as required).

Telling the recruitment bods you have had previous clearance should be
sufficient information for them.

If they are saying you must be familiar with the document to apply for a
job, then tough. That is the biggest headache the MoD has with
recruitment - finding people with experience.

Want a proper Catch-22? If you have security clearance, you're not
actually supposed to tell anyone.

I should hope not!

If you think you have a need to know, then there will be a solution.
Note, however, it is not you that has to have the need. It is typically
your employer needing you to know.


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Simon Reed, simon@sandj.demon.co.uk

Simon Reed <SpamMail@sandj.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<dhV18rBKlMLAFwDk@sandj.demon.co.uk>...
And if you've done any work with the Forces you should already be
familiar with JSP440...

Hmmmm... theory is good. :-)


How about knowledge through inference? You could be in trouble

In MsgID<dhV18rBKlMLAFwDk@sandj.demon.co.uk> within uk.comp.security,
'Simon Reed' wrote:

When you do see it, anonymously stick as much of it as you can out
onto p2p or usenet somewhere. If it becomes public property then
people will stop bellyaching about 'clearance'.

Only time that clearance counts is when the road is snowed in.

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Dave Johnson - requiem@freeuk.com
"A democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding on what to have for
lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the results of the
decision." - Benjamin Franklin

In MsgID<PvrXb.11301$5W3.7682@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> within
uk.comp.security, 'JM' wrote:

Why, thank you kindly

My current favorite quote is the right reply here, it was in my sig,
but you might have missed it.

"A democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding on what to have for
lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the results of the
decision." - Benjamin Franklin


--
Dave Johnson - requiem@freeuk.com

In summary: the more guns you need, the weaker you are.

-- Lassi

In MsgID<1g97q3h.4dnfs95dhmalN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> within
uk.comp.security, 'Steve Firth' wrote:

Ah, the trick is to evolve without donning a different uniform.


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Dave Johnson - requiem@freeuk.com

In MsgID<40309FC9.817FDDC3@ieee.orgasm-research.invalid> within
uk.comp.security, 'Lassi Hippeläinen' wrote:

Hey, I like that (-:

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