There's a whole new slew of new MS windows updates. Jeeze!

I thought all the XP bug-fixes were going to settle down after a year of
two but the activity seems to increase.

The last lot were about 43 MB in my case as I have MS Office.

Has anyone kept a running total of how many MB of download have been
needed to keep patching XP ever since its launch? It must be some big
figure.

From: "Zak" <duff@nomail.invalid>

| There's a whole new slew of new MS windows updates. Jeeze!
|
| I thought all the XP bug-fixes were going to settle down after a year of
| two but the activity seems to increase.
|
| The last lot were about 43 MB in my case as I have MS Office.
|
| Has anyone kept a running total of how many MB of download have been
| needed to keep patching XP ever since its launch? It must be some big
| figure.

I expect WinXP SP3 to be ~.5GB !

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In comp.security.misc Zak <duff@nomail.invalid> wrote:
Well, if you wanted to spend some time, you could get a rough estimate
by using the security bulletin search:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx

You can search that based on product (eg XP) and service pack installed
and it should return all security bulletins for that product that are
not covered by the service pack. Then total all the download sizes, add
in the size of the service pack and you have your rough estimate.

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:31:47 +0100, Zak wrote:

The new Mac's can run most of the windows programs now check it out, it
might be the better way to go
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Zak wrote:
Ask the same question for typical Linux distros and you might get a clue
that it's not that bad.

A way bigger question is why it usually recommends a reboot whereas a
restart of the service or driver is normally sufficient.

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
Two very good points. This reboot thing is immensely grotesque, and
Linux is in no way better than Windows regarding the patches. Theo de
Raadt (OpenBSD) pointed out that Linux and Windows have the same rapid
development cycle, which leads to crap.

http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinf..._0616theo.html

Kind regards
Ludovic

"Zak" <duff@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9819DB035637D64A18E@127.0.0.1...
Sick of them. I fully understand the need to improve on security. But the
number of release/patches would indicate bad programming.

Apart from that my system is slowing to a crawl in the last 6 months or so
and it's clean, fully patched and run regular defrags/cleanups - I put it
down to the patches/updates

Clive

Zak wrote:
I've accumulated 50 critical/important security patches for XP (93 mb)
since SP2. May have missed one or two. It's a pain but at least they're
doing something. You can't tell me the others don't have their share.


Jon

Ludovic Joly wrote:

One totally retarded assumption that everything in a distro repository
is part of the operating system, and one irrelevancy based on the fact
that two completely different things need to be services differently.

You're as clueless as Gobbleslop.....

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:

Utter clueless nonsense. Updates and patches for Windoze FAR outweigh
patches for any *nix operating system. Even if you include a standard
browser, email client, and a couple bells and whistles that make it
surpass anything a Windoze install could ever even hope to offer.

The only way anyone would believe your rubbish is if they were so brain
dead they believed all the "third party" packages in a distribution
and/or repository were part of the "core" OS.

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:

You can do an unatteded update and limit it to one reboot.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...ogeth er_tehf

Jon wrote:

Now this has been updated a long time ago. Since about '03 the Hotfix
Chaining is not needed any more because it's safely implemented by the
update.exe installer, and since '04 a problematic error in the installer
has been fixed as well (so all updates since XP SP2 are safe, but old
updates can be added the new installer as well).

I was about telling that no reboot is needed at all.

TwistyCreek wrote:

Windows also is a distro of a kernel, some core utilities, a default
shell and many programs. So the comparison is valid to a certain point.

Jon wrote:

I've got 90, and they're all together about 45 MB. :-)

It might be good for you to not know what they're aware of but not
doing. And no, I don't just mean the inherently insecure bullshit
programs like MSIE, MSOE or Windows Messenger. Microsoft is deliberately
ignoring problems where they even have a fully tested solution already
implemented on later versions of Windows.

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:


Yes nitwit, And up TO that point Windows has had considerably more
patches/updates/problems than any Linux distribution. Your bumbling
"not so bad" statement is patently FALSE when a level comparison is
made.

"Jon" <nospam@jcosby.com> wrote in message
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Did I miss something, or does that particular site refer to nothing but Win
2000?
The OP in this thread mentions XP alone, or are you suggesting that 'fix'
will also work with XP?

Nomen Nescio wrote:
So far there've been only 3 updates to the kernel itself, and being
delivered as big differences of binaries doesn't reflect much of the
actual code change. May I remind you that Linux actually reached 2.6.18?
These are 18 big updates since 2.6.0 with certainly a lot of bigger changes.

And your claim is generally wrong: Current total updates for Windows XP
are merely 150 MB, and about 1 GB in total over all time, whereas a
decent RedHat 9.0 has about 300 MB in total and about 2 GB over time for
Linux itself, core binaries, BinUtils, X.org and KDE only.

Tx2 wrote:
Oops. Here's something more recent.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d.../hfdeploy.mspx

Zak wrote:
speaking of which, how do you run the new windows
network analyzer???

"Jon" <nospam@jcosby.com> wrote in message
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ah, my mind can rest easy now....... ;-)