In article <7097e46dfbb30cdfba3bd1660eaada94@rebleep>, Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

Cotse is excellent - as good as it gets. Cheap, too ($6/month)
considering the range and quality of services.

They won't protect you if you use the service to make death
threats to George Bush - but for protecting your privacy they
will do all that is possible under the law.

Regards,

PS You can never be 100% sure that any privacy service
hasn't been compromised or isn't a honeypot. However, cotse was
around long before 9/11, the folks who run it have a track record
for being privacy defenders, and the quality of service bespeaks
"dedication to the cause." Guaranteed safety? No - not
possible in this life unless you set the service up yourself,
and probably not even then . But you won't find a better
or more trustworthy third-party service.

In article <Xns93A7857457078collyut@203.59.27.131>, LLK@hushmail.com
says...
Five days, it used to be seven, we recently dropped the length of time
we hold them due to the size. I know, only two days shorter than a week
so it still fits to say we have them for a week

Plus they have a more professional looking web site than we do.

That's true, we aren't designed to give you anonymity from the US
government because we operate under their laws. However, I don't think
anonymizer can provide that either for much the same reasons. If you
need that kind of anonymity don't trust any single service, use the
remailers.

/steve
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In article <Xns93A7857457078collyut@203.59.27.131>, LL <LLK@hushmail.com> wrote:

First, cotse's fee. Despite your whinging, you have admitted
that cotse's fee is indeed lower.

Second, cotse's services are better and more complete.

Third, cotse's rep ("the currency of the realm" for
security services based on trust) is higher.

Fourth, cotse does not require you to use any special software,
together with a large number of intellectual property enforcement
provisions (incuding identity disclosure for alleged breaches of
the licence agreement).

Fifth, and most important, cotse does not make unrealistic and
disingenous representations - as you do - that it can provide a
shield for illegal acts (let's hope you are not a spokesman for
anonymizer!) Cotse explains in clear and simple language the
types and levels of protection it is designed to give
(i.e., a privacy shield) and what it neither can nor is willing
to protect (illegal acts and grossly abusive ones such as
spamming).

In fact, to anonymizer's credit and your discredit, anonymizer's
User Agreement (section 7.3) explicitly prohibits illegal acts.
And item 4 of section 8.3 provides that the supplier (i.e.,
anonymizer) is not obliged to keep confidential any information
that it is required by law to divulge (and in a number of other
cases including spamming). Anonymizer states that it normally
keeps logs only for 48 hours, but then goes on to add the proviso
that it may keep them longer. (Anonymizer's User Agreement goes
on for over 7 densely-worded pages. Not disqualifying by itself
but rather worrisome in terms of simplicity and clarity.)

The powers of the US government, if they are focussed, and if
they want you bad enough, are enormous. Anyone who used
*any* commercial service - and one based in the US at that! - to
make, for example, death threats on the internet against GWB
would be a fool of the first order.

Anonymizer appears to provide a useful commercial privacy shield.
However, to pretend that it could - or would - protect you from
the consequences of your illegal acts and Big Brother is madness.

Regards,

"Stephen K. Gielda" <steve@No-Spam-packetderm.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19658ffff7360748989a19@news.supernews.com ...


You could always run a mix-based web proxy like JAP, ya know... ever
thought about it ? Best thing since freedom.net IMO.


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