George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in
news:a6b52b3f53d8d9e5e5666d21fd185ed6@mixmaster.it :

Another bit of stupidity from you, you mouthbreathing twit.

Bestcrypt Volume Encryption for Windows is among the most advanced full-HD
OTFE encryption systems. Not only can it encrypt all HD partitions on all
HDs (including the boot/system one) it supports complete encryption of
spanned, mirrored, and striped volumes, as well as RAID 5 volumes. It also
supports physical tokens in addition to a password/passphrase for
additional security.

http://www.jetico.com/bcve.htm

Now do be a good little moron and fuck off.

Regards,

Sebastian G. wrote:

Maybe you're just a lying sack, desperately trying to change the
rules to try and win a point.

Can you install an OS to ANY device that's been encrypted by
Truecrypt? No.

Case closed. Have a nice day.

Next!

nemo_outis wrote:

Problem is, with Truecrypt you don't have that choice.

Go ahead and try it. Encrypt an entire drive and see if you can
install an OS to it.

Whole disk my ass. LOL!

After all this constructive and philosophical debate, I have decided to
download Truecrypt5 myself and test it on my system. I will try an
encrypt the whole OS see what happen, of course everything is backed up.

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:04:27 +0100 (CET),


STOP!/STOP!/ *STOP*

Natalie, the popcorn, and hurry up, the games have begun!!

Anonymous wrote:



That has never been a requirement.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:



So then my fully encrypted harddisk with even an encrypted partition table
is pure imagination?


Who cares for installing an OS? This drive only contains data, the OS is on
another media.

LOL LOL LOL >:|

You will never understand what we are talking about.
Maybe your posts should not appear in alt.privacy at all
I am putting up a filter.

And who the f*** wants a clear OS to hide all the communist
propaganda we have been downloading from the internet?

The day the CIA kicks your door in you are done for, have a
nice trip to Guantanamo! lol

Casper <spam@spam.spam> writes:
Anything which separates alt.privacy from sci.crypt is
a good thing. Keeping your ill-thought-out gibberings
off sci.crypt would in particular be appreciated.

Phil
--
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

Casper wrote:


We were talking about full disc encryption. This is totally unrelated to
pre-boot authentication, in fact it is mutually exclusive.


The OS can be easily encrypted with a partition-wise encryption with
pre-boot authentication.


But well, why should I discuss with someone who is even too stupid to create
a technically valid posting?

"Sebastian G." <seppi@seppig.de> wrote in
news:612qppF1tk96tU4@mid.dfncis.de:


Yep, Sebastian, you've got it entirely right.

Yes, Truecrypt in addition to file-based and partition-based encrypted
storage, also supports device-based OTFE storage. The device-based
versions do not have a partition table and are essentially
"floppy/superfloppy-ish." Device-based encrypted storage is primarily
useful for floppy disks, USB pendrives, and such but the Truecrypt docs
say a HD can also be be used this way.

Superfloppyish-based encrypted storage is only suitable for data storage,
not for a bootable Windows system. In fact, independent of any
encryption aspects, Windows has been deliberately crippled so it can NOT
boot/run from removable media such as superfloppies (Microsoft says it's
a licencing issue). (Some folks have crafted end-runs around this
limitation of Windows, using tricks such as RAM drives.)

But all this is beside the point. With Truecrypt 5 one can now encrypt
*any and all partitions* on any drive, including the boot/system
partition. This is all that is needed for complete OTFE protected
storage for both the Windows system itself and all data on it.

Regards,

Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:87hcgjd7c2.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org:

Let me suggest that you start a moderated group to protect your delicate
sensibilites. Or, as an alternative, that you go fuck yourself.

Regards,

nemo_outis wrote:



Nonsense. Microsoft has only disabled this option by default, since they
don't want to support such configurations.


.... or by simple setting the required options.


There are still some limitations. For example, in a dual boot configuration
the system partition must be identical to the boot partition and only the
original MBR works. For non-dual boot, you can have one and only one of
these options.

"Sebastian G." <seppi@seppig.de> wrote in
news:613aivF1ti8nnU1@mid.dfncis.de:

Ahh, that's more like it. I feel much better when Sebastian reverts to
his old self and spouts bullshit. The world is running as expected.

No, Sebastian, it''s not nonsense. Windows XP has no such "option." To
boot XP from removable media you must resort to hacks such as using bits
& pieces from the embedded version - which is clearly a licence
violation.

There is no doubt that Truecrypt can go on adding additional features,
bells, and whistles for a very long time. However, Truecrypt v5, as it
now stands, provides ALL the core functionality necessary for complete
OTFE protection of both the Windows OS and all data on all drives.

Regards,

nospamatall wrote:

I don't think it's ever going to be 100% possible to guarantee that any
software running atop and operating system can successfully keep that
host from storing information about what that program does, somewhere
the program isn't aware of. It is, after all, the operating system
that's running the show.

Protected memory schemes and such go a good distance towards limiting
this sort of information "sharing", but they're as far from perfect as
can be and still be workable. Virtualization and other "sandbox" schemes
of that type are a lot better. Dual booting can be trivially configured
to minimalize that sharing, and "live" environments like CD's generally
come configured that way by default. Then at the end of the spectrum you
have physical swapping of storage devices which makes it an
impossibility.

The interesting thing about Truecrypt's hidden volume feature is that
one may be able to simulate physical swapping of devices in software.
I'd consider strong encryption every bit as secure as disconnecting a
drive for any practical purpose.

nemo_outis wrote:



Nonsense. You can either use the preinstall kit or manually configure an
unattended installation. Making Windows boot from USB requires nothing but
moving the USB bus driver entry from the list of general I/O extenders to
the boot bus extender list, and changing the startup type of the usb mass
storage driver to make it load at boot time. This can be done for FireWire,
SD Card and iSCSI targets as well, and requires exactly no data from Windows CE.

However, not on all setups. And "protection" is a quite funny term,
considering that just some hours ago I had reported my full analysis on a
privilege escalation vulnerability that has been carried over from version
4.3a without any changes.

nemo_outis wrote:

Did you think nobody would check this "cite", ya' pathetic lying worm?

That paragraph doesn't exist at all on that page. Or anywhere else on
Jetico's site that I can find. You even misspelled "encryption" in one
of the two posts where you tried to pass off your obvious lie as a
cite. No kidding dumbass, check line 3 in each.

What a bumbling buffoon!

*snicker*

Here's what's actually on Jetico's own pages, just to rub your nose in
it a little longer...

"The chapter explains why BestCrypt Volume Encryption (a line in
BestCrypt family of encryption software products) has got Volume
Encryption name. Many people may think that Volume Encryption is the
same as Partition Encryption or even Whole Disk Encryption. Sometimes
it is really so, but not always, and it is worth to learn about the
difference."

http://www.jetico.com/bcve_web_help/...what_is_ve.htm

*snicker*

Begging won't work, bitch. I've got you under my heel again, and to
tell the truth I'm just enjoying the crunching sound way too much.

Have a nice day. :-p

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Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

ROTFL!

I did the EXACT same thing. ;-)

Sebastian G. wrote:

On the contrary. FDE can't possibly exist without some sort of pre-boot
authentication. The very definition of "full disk" precludes any access
at all without it.

Yes, and that's what Truecrypt is.

Says you, whose entire arsenal consists of calling everyone else stupid
and spewing made up nonsense.

"Sebastian G." <seppi@seppig.de> wrote in
news:613dm4F1ff4uuU1@mid.dfncis.de:

Yes, Sebastian, exactly as I said: you can only do it if you hack
Windows.

You have already repeatedly demonstrated that you can make errors faster
than I can correct them. Accordingly, I'm not going to further pursue
this latest error of yours since it has nothing to do with the matter at
hand: Truecrypt and full-HD OTFE encryption.


Like all software, Truecrypt may contain bugs. The alleged bug you
mention does not affect its OTFE protection of the OS and data which only
truly comes into not play when the machine is off. Nor does Truecrypt
support every non-standard variant configuration, such as dual-booting.

However, what I said above is irrefragably true: Truecrypt v5, as it now
stands, provides ALL the core functionality necessary for complete OTFE
protection of both the Windows OS and all data on all drives.

Regards,