I have seen a number of posts on usenet ginving this as their
newserver (I think), yet when I google on 4ax.com nothing shows.
Is this Altopia ?

For example in the following header . . .
Message-ID: <gpdgu0ldm6qfn1e65v7ljcfv4u1p3fp1fg@4ax.com>

Newsgroups: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Organization: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Lines: xx
Message-ID: <gpdgu0ldm6qfn1e65v7ljcfv4u1p3fp1fg@4ax.com>
References: <41e57519_1@news.vic.com>
<20050112171855.05244.00000058@mb-m01.aol.com>
<9ldbu0tbme82ua400pboj4hkdjqgou9tgu@4ax.com> <41e63700_2@news.vic.com>
<mvoeu0l8j8r36ufj43blu132jv52qi7j4j@4ax.com> <41e79edf$1_2@news.vic.com>
<m7afu05ab21q75vngptlpqm6sheifelep2@4ax.com>
<34pvhhF4fqq9eU1@individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0

"Blanff" <Blanff@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:35jvurF4m76f6U1@individual.net:

4ax is Forte Agent (news reader) message id

Does it then drop the user's server out of the picture ?

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Blanff wrote:

It's only an ID flag, nothing more, pointing to a placeholder
domain reserved for that purpose. It has nothing to do with the
routing of the message, and message ID can be changed in
agent.ini. 4ax is hexadecimal for the author's daughter's name.


Paul

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yeah well plaese enlighten please . . . soiunds great but to us laymen
??????

It has nothing to do with the

Oh I see 'x' is an hexadcimal digit ?
I thought hex was ABCDEF0123456789 inclusive only.

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On 24 Jan 2005 10:11:41 GMT, Blanff wrote:

Try this newsgroup
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
But as it's been asked before, Google a bit first.

You did look in the Agent | Help as well?

http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/sp...il/001643.html
<part paste>
system. That was an incorrect assumption. Now that I investigate
differently; it appears that *is* Agent information. Here's a thread I
found:

Oops. There's a lot of stuff there. It's too long. But, it's an
interesting thread:

Subject: Re: 4ax.com - why?
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
Date: 2000-12-20 06:29:42 PST
<end paste>

Leads to another Google
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...=2005&safe=off
<no shorter version today>

4ax.com - why?
This is from the Agent help file on message ID's: ;Agent can generate
three different
formats: ;<md5>@4AX.COM ;<md5> is a globally-unique string, generated
....
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent - Dec 24 2000, 4:27 pm by pfgebel
- 2 messages - 2 authors

What is 4ax.com?
Subject: What is 4ax.com? Why is that there in my news postings with
agent??
Hi Randy, For the full explanation, go read this usenet ...
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent - Apr 16 2000, 8:52 am by Ralph
Fox - 1 message - 1 author

Agent | Help -

AGENT.INI
[Message]

GenerateId=<n> (default is 2)
NewsIdFormat=<n> (default is 0)
MailIdFormat=<n> (default is 0)

These three parameters control how Agent generates message-ids for
outbound messages. Parameter GenerateId is obsolete, but is still
supported for backward compatibility with old installations. Parameter
NewsIdFormat and MailIdFormat control the format of the ids for usenet
and email messages, respectively, and are normally used for new
installations.

Agent can generate three different formats:

<md5>@4AX.COM <md5>

is a globally-unique string, generated from random state on your PC and
encoded using the MD5 algorithm. 4AX.COM is a domain name owned by
Forte for exclusive use by Agent for the purpose of generating
message-ids. This is the format recommended by Forte.

<snip>


Rock On!


Google will also find the quote from the author, contained in another
post -

Message-ID: <5v4d4t077gcunfihcp40ofoqbdiptrqvpo@4ax.com>


There that wasn't hard about 5 minutes work and you could have found
that out for yourself.

A "legality" footnote on message-id and the '4ax.com' domain
With ... Your choices are: - Generate no message-id. With ... names. If
you're paranoid about "4ax.com", I'd choose this option. ...
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent - Sep 20 1999, 3:30 am by Mark
Sidell - 35 messages - 13 authors


About 20 seconds more for the original message.


From: Mark Sidell <mark.sid...@forteinc.com>
Subject: Re: A "legality" footnote on message-id and the '4ax.com'
domain
Date: 1999/09/20
Message-ID: <p4mdur0hqesigvi9niom2och7liu6fqqeg@4ax.com>


<snip>

Me

Blanff wrote:

Mark set Agent to generate msg ids using the 4ax domain. he then
registered the domain so no one's toes would get stepped on. but
other than being a domain label it has no function.


I think you're right about that. not sure what coding it's in,
but i know it's code for his daughter's name.

Paul

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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:03:29 -0500, Paul B. wrote:

See my earlier longer post, it has the message-id of the original from
Mark, use http://groups.google.com to see it.


4A -> 74dec -> J

'x' from hex -> x

thus 4AX.

Me

nothing execpt message IDs for usenet posts popped up which I had no
intentions of searching for the next 20 minutes.
It is apparent that you had some background knowledge on this subject.
What the fuck is a person like you doing posting in a support group anyway?
Boosting your ego ? If you can't play nice then GoFuCkYoUrSeLf !
Another coward with a keyboad.

On 25 Jan 2005 02:33:43 GMT, Blanff wrote:

Normally I would not bother with a reply to such an ungrateful

http://thesaurus.reference.com/searc...eful+&db=roget
Synonyms: careless, demanding, dissatisfied, faultfinding, forgetful,
grasping, grumbling, heedless, ingrate, insensible, oblivious,
self-centered, selfish, thankless, unappreciative, unmindful, unnatural,
unthankful

idiot.

http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=idiot&db=roget
Synonyms: ass, blockhead, boob, booby, cretin, dimwit, donkey, dork,
dumb ox, dumbbell, dunce, dunderhead, fool, halfwit, ignoramus,
imbecile, jackass, jerk, kook, meathead, mental defective, moron,
nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, pinhead, pointy head, simpleton, stupid,
tomfool, twit, yo-yo



However thare are several incorrect (not unexpected) assumptions.

I only did the same (Google / Google Groups). Well as 4xa is in the
header it's not unexpected to get endless matches. Using a mix of
different search words helps.

I have no control how long it takes you to search for something.

I didn't, I only used the good clues provided in the Paul B. posts.

<snip abuse>
Commenting on yourself then, after all I only answered your question and
if you didn't like it that's your fault.

Me