Hot Lava Software has been a leader in the educational software
industry for many years. We have software that can help you pass your
CCNA, MCSE, Microsoft, Business Skills, and other tests! We also have
some free downloads that you can enjoy.

Go to http://jcsm.org/hotlavasoftware.htm and see!

Sincerely,
CCNA MCSE Software

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, CCNA MCSE climbed on a soapbox &
opined:

We got something *hot* for you, spammer.

Ben Dover

ccna_mcse_software@yahoo.com (CCNA MCSE) wrote in message news:<d80be485.0410081112.5d75ea8e@posting.google. com>...
The link above leads the reader to a born-again Christian site, run by
Jason Gastrich, as self-styled minister who believes these kinds of
antics are perfectly fine as long as one is "once-saved-always-saved."

Jason's ministry is allegedly non-profit, operating under the laws of
the State of California. This particular bit of false advertising and
misdirection will be reported to the appropriate authorities.

If you're looking for training content for the MCSE and CCNA
professional certifications, you will NOT find it at the above link.
Instead, you will find Jason's peculiar brand of fundamentalist
christianity.

did i tell you guys i hate religious types..

weak minded fools the lot of them

SINNERS!!!!!


"David Sienkiewicz" <david.sienkiewicz@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:35fa3772.0410142225.57c64fa6@posting.google.c om...

incase you missed it "billyw" <b@brainless.net> said in
news:OelfX#tsEHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

you really need to learn to express yourself billy. don't hold these
things in. it will just fester. tell me how you really feel...
<VBEG>

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, CCNA MCSE climbed on a soapbox &
opined:

If there's anything I hate worse than a lying SOB whore of a spammer. It's
a lying SOB whore born again fundie spammer.

LARTs sent to;

abuse@ev1.net
groups-abuse@google.com
abuse@yahoo.com
abuse@rr.com

JaR
NANAE Candidate

thanks for noticing.
i've always had a problem expressing my feelings


"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95838F1731900neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.1 6...

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message news:<OelfX#tsEHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
Indeed.

This one, particularly.

Worry not. He claims to run a tax-exempt ministry in California.
Those are regulated by certain laws; and he also runs a web hosting
business, which is also governed by certain laws.

Jason has been under scrutiny for some time, mostly for his antics in
other groups, his removal of negative reviews of his "book" at Amazon
and his purchasing of domain names so that he can use them to redirect
users to his web site. Those were always dishonest, but this is a
pretty flagrant case of false advertising and even outright lying to
his readers.

Hello All,

Jason posted these to help educate people about our neat new mobile
learning for MCSE and CCNA that we offer from
http://www.hotlavasoftware.com

The link below is not correct since the progam with him has ended so
please go to this link if you would like mobile learning software for
your palm or pocket pc for MCSE and CCNA.

http://www.hotlavasoftware.com

Sorry for any confusion.

Hot Lava Software


ccna_mcse_software@yahoo.com (CCNA MCSE) wrote in message news:<d80be485.0410081112.5d75ea8e@posting.google. com>...

yes, and osama bin laden is jewish.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

bobs@hotlavasoftware.com (Bob) wrote in message news:<60c8b405.0410201001.461c1d71@posting.google. com>...

Well, I guess I'm confused.

In another message, you tell us that the "program" ended. Here, you
tell us that the link was messed up.

But on Jason's site, he says:

...we were directing so much traffic to HLS
that they decided to stop the ads for awhile
because they were afraid of having to pay
more money than they have! Shortly afterwards,
they wanted to begin ads again for a much
lower rate. We are prayerfully considering
their offer.

Bob Sanregret (President of Hot Lava Software)
provides a testimonial. He says, "I was scared
that the cost would skyrocket and at the current
rate it looked like that might happen! (October
13, 2004)"

These all seem to conflict.

If the link was messed up, then you probably didn't get more traffic
than you could handle, so what Jason says is not true.

If your ads no longer are sponsored through Jason's "ministry" because
"the program ended," that, too, would conflict with the other reasnos,
i.e., the link was messed up or Hot Lava Software couldn't afford it.

I'm old and cynical, Bob, though not unreasonable. Still, I find it
rather convenient that this went on for quite some time - nearly two
weeks - and nothing happened until well after Jason's "mistake" was
caught.

It's also a matter of record that Jason masquerades as other
identities to hawk his book and web site(s), as well as write glowing,
substanceless, positive reviews of his e-book at Amazon.

And, of course, it's also well-known that Jason will hijack web
surfers with domain names very similar to those that he opposes, so
that when they mistype those domain names into a URL, they stand a
fair change of being misdirected to his site - a site most surfers
looking for those domains had no intention of visiting.

Check, for example, talkorigins.org and talkorigin.org, as well as
infidelguy.com versus theinfidelguy.com. Other examples abound.

It's one thing to use the fairly new and widespread availability of
the web to forward the christian message. It's quite another to
MISuse it. Jason misuses it, under the guise of "once saved, always
saved," Jason feels that he can commit any sin as long as it forwards
his rather peculiar interpretation of modern christianity.
Consequently, he often engages in deception.

So, as you can see, doing business with Jason Gastrich is usually
going to be a losing proposition.

bobs@hotlavasoftware.com (Bob) wrote in message news:<60c8b405.0410210409.a925fde@posting.google.c om>...
< snip >

As Jason pointed out in his single message tonight, I was wrong in my
original assessment of his tactics and motives in posting the
advertising for Hot Lava Software.

While I was NOT wrong, as far as some of us have been able to gather,
that the links posted by Jason under another assumed name in certain
technical newsgroups led to the home page of his "ministry" and not to
anything about Hot Lava Software, I WAS wrong in assuming from that
that there was no agreement between Jason and that business.

Jason has constructed redirects before, with the intent of leading
people to his web site, apparently for the purpose of increasing
traffic. To this end, Jason purchased domain names very close to
those whom he opposes (and have also refuted and humiliated him) and
uses them to generate this traffic. Examples are talkorigin.org
versus talkoriginS.org and THEinfidelguy.com versus infidelguy.com.

I had good reason to suspect Jason's motives based on what I observed,
but this time, those suspicions led to a wrong conclusion.

But Bob has posted a couple of messages providing some information
with respect to this issue, and the more important piece of
information pertinent to this message is that Bob and Jason DID have
some sort of agreement.

That Jason violated the agreement in some way and that it didn't quite
work out for them is not the issue. The issue is that they DID have
an agreement and so I was wrong to accuse Jason of making up or
hijacking the name "Hot Lava Software" for his own purposes.

I retract that accusation and apologize to Jason Gastrich, Bob and
Marti Sanregret and Hot Lava Software for my mistake in this matter.

The retraction and apologies in this matter are offered without
qualification. I was wrong on this matter, period.

I will also apologize to Jason and Bob for my failure to retract and
apologize in a more timely manner. All of this information was pretty
clear at least about 12 or more hours ago - and I did post in that
time period, but neglected to issue a retraction and apology at that
time. I should have done that IMMEDIATELY upon being cleared upon
that point. I failed to do that and it was wrong of me. So I
apologize again, unreservedly and without qualification, for my
failure to retract more immediately.

HDS

David Sienkiewicz wrote:
<Snip>

^&*(^%$$# lawyers...

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, David Sienkiewicz climbed on a
soapbox & opined:

<Lawyer-induced grovel snipped>on being cleared upon
Got a call from the fscking landsharks, I see. What a load of crap.

JaR
Disgusted Candidate

JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> wrote in message news:<Xns958A54506D600plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46. 248.16>...
No, I got no calls at all. I made a mistake and retracting it and
apologizing was the right thing to do.

Here you will see my reply to Jason, himself, in talk.origins, where
he posted a single rant, peppered with his usual misrepresentations,
"orders" and threats:

http://tinyurl.com/4eqrb

You can use Google and check the thread. The fact is that Jason was
right about that one point. I originally assumed that Jason either
made up the company name that he used or he hijacked it for his own
purposes.

However, it turns out that there was an agreement between Hot Lava
Software and Jason Gastrich.

That Jason violated that agreement and took advantage of it is beside
the point. If I make a mistake and I catch it, I'll correct it. If
someone else corrects it, I'll acknowledge it and retract it.

Again, that's just the right thing to do.