Hi. I am just wondering if anyone knows of any new DVD Authoring
programs that I could try?

So far I have tried the following:

Nero 6 (Nero Vision Express)
Good but very slow (re-encodes everything unnecessarily)

TMPGEnc DVD
Couldn't get this to work very well on my system. Lots of conflicts.
Was a fast program to use but limited features.

DVD Lab
Find it difficult to edit the video with this program unlike with Nero
and TMPGEnc DVD. If I have video of a Television program and want to
delete the beginning, end and ad breaks, it is very difficult if not
impossible to do.

There are a few others I have tried but I forgot what they were. If
anyone can suggest any other programs and new ones on the market I
haven't yet tried I'd appreciate it. I may have to make do with
<sigh>Nero</sigh> re-encoding everything for several hours until I
find that long awaited decent authoring program.

Cheers

John

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I am not a serious DVD creator but I bought a capture card for my PC to
record TV programs. I thought it was a good way to get rid of the VCR
without buying a standalone DVD recorder. I don't think it was the brightest
idea I ever had but that's what I did.

For editing TV programs and removing commercials VideoReDo Plus is
fantastic.

I had a copy of Ulead Movie Factory 3 (SE?) that came with some hardware.
Found it easy to use to make a simple DVD. If you want to really jazz up
your DVDs you would probably want something better. Ulead would edit the
video to cut a commercial but I found getting the cut in right place to be
tedious compared to VideoReDo.

I now have a DVD player that understands fast-forwarding through mpeg2 files
so now I just burn my capture onto a DVDRW and don't bother editing
commercials or making a DVD unless I have captured something like a movie or
documentary I want to keep.

Billh

I find Womble MPEG Video Wizard very good.
Andy

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I like Sony's DVD Architect 3.0c. TMPGEnc DVD I have heard is a bit
complex to figure out, DVD Lab I think is on the expensive side, Nero is
pretty decent for a quickie throw together project.



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"John" <road@runner.com> wrote in message
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Going by your list and comments, I would you use
www.VideoReDo.com to do the simple cuts & joins
then feed the results to DVD Lab. DVD Lab is more
complex than my favorite TDA, but it is almost as good
as the $1500 Sonic Scenarist (SE) (The regular version
of Scenarist is over $10,000) DVD Lab Pro is ~$200

Luck;
Ken

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:08:51 +0000, John <road@runner.com> wrote:

You can do sizing and joins with DVD Shrink. It will create hidden
titles and preserve the chapter structure of the original. No menus so
you will have to use the Go To feature on your player. But that's easy
enough.

Most of those authoring programs screw things up. For example, Ulead
Movie Factory 4 screws up the audio sync (and VideoReDo is not able to
fix it), it does not preserve subtitles, etc.

These are still pioneering times for DVD. It's going to take a while
longer to get things working properly.


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If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:35:23 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Won't you lose subtitles doing that?


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seascape wrote:
|| "Andy" <woof@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:dk1foj$1a38$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
||| I find Womble MPEG Video Wizard very good.
||| Andy
|||
||| "billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> wrote in message
||| news:HbX8f.14977$Nj3.1449963@news20.bellglobal.com ...
||||
|||| "John" <road@runner.com> wrote in message
|||| news:1od8m1t0cp75v7slkrtgajhdqplbqj467i@4ax.com...
||||| Hi. I am just wondering if anyone knows of any new DVD Authoring
||||| programs that I could try?
|||||
||||| So far I have tried the following:
|||||
||||| Nero 6 (Nero Vision Express)
||||| Good but very slow (re-encodes everything unnecessarily)
|||||
||||| TMPGEnc DVD
||||| Couldn't get this to work very well on my system. Lots of
||||| conflicts. Was a fast program to use but limited features.
|||||
||||| DVD Lab
||||| Find it difficult to edit the video with this program unlike with
||||| Nero and TMPGEnc DVD. If I have video of a Television program and
||||| want to delete the beginning, end and ad breaks, it is very
||||| difficult if not impossible to do.
|||||
||||| There are a few others I have tried but I forgot what they were.
||||| If anyone can suggest any other programs and new ones on the
||||| market I haven't yet tried I'd appreciate it. I may have to make
||||| do with <sigh>Nero</sigh> re-encoding everything for several
||||| hours until I find that long awaited decent authoring program.
|||||
||||| Cheers
|||||
||||| John
|||||
|||||
||||
|||| I am not a serious DVD creator but I bought a capture card for my
|||| PC to record TV programs. I thought it was a good way to get rid
|||| of the VCR without buying a standalone DVD recorder. I don't think
|||| it was the brightest idea I ever had but that's what I did.
||||
|||| For editing TV programs and removing commercials VideoReDo Plus is
|||| fantastic.
||||
|||| I had a copy of Ulead Movie Factory 3 (SE?) that came with some
|||| hardware. Found it easy to use to make a simple DVD. If you want
|||| to really jazz up your DVDs you would probably want something
|||| better. Ulead would edit the video to cut a commercial but I found
|||| getting the cut in right place to be tedious compared to VideoReDo.
||||
|||| I now have a DVD player that understands fast-forwarding through
|||| mpeg2 files so now I just burn my capture onto a DVDRW and don't
|||| bother editing commercials or making a DVD unless I have captured
|||| something like a movie or documentary I want to keep.
||||
|||| Billh


|| I like Sony's DVD Architect 3.0c. TMPGEnc DVD I have heard is a bit
|| complex to figure out, DVD Lab I think is on the expensive side,
|| Nero is pretty decent for a quickie throw together project.
||

I can't imagine that anyone capable of turning a light on and off could find
TMPGenc DVD Author complex to figure out! It was the first authoring program
I ever used, and I don't think I've had to look at the instructions yet....
Seems to me that it is completely transparent in the way that it works.

paul

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You snipped my one paragraph down to part of a
sentence, but you couldn't remove the "you" I
accidentally put in?

Dan promised subtitle support as part of a multi audio
stream version of VRD, hasn't got there yet. So I guess
you would have to use Womble for that.

Luck;
Ken

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Most of them don't "screw things up" for me.

Luck;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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The problem is often not with authoring programs. Capture systems,
particularly hardware, as well as encoders may not produce completely
compliant mpeg files. There is also a little ambiguity in what is strictly
by-the-book compliant, since latitude was built into the protocals (it is
*adaptive* compression when not in CBR) or forced into the computing world
by clever programmers (e.g. we can shave time off processing if we ignore
this).

VideoReDo and MF4 work just fine and I am pretty tired of you dogging them
over and over. You started with a bad file, and ended with a bad DVD...end
of story.

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:36:00 -0600, "Cathy De Viney"
<ccdeviney@NOSPAM.cox.net> wrote:

Quit top posting. It makes you look like a newbie.

Well get used to it because I will continue when I thing it is needed.

It has nothing to do with any file. I have experienced problems with
brand new DVDs.

I am telling you that MF4 screws up audio sync and VideoReDo does not
fix it.

--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Do Roxio have any authoring program worth looking at? What about Sony?
Any others?

For now I am just making do with Nero Vision Express, but I am not
liking the amount of time it is taking to author.

Thanks for all the replies.

John

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:16:47 +0000, John <road@runner.com> wrote:

I think you will find that the reason is because Nero is doing the job
correctly. I use Ulead Movie Factory 4 and it has a setting for quick
renders. However, using that render screws up the audio sync in almost
every instance. So I have no choice but to do the Two Pass render and
that takes a very long time.

I may try Vision Express - can you tell me if it really does work in
terms of audio sync and preserving subtitles. MF4 is a POS toy.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Hi, can you tell me if with Ulead Movie Factory 4 it is possible to
make VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS on hardisk?
thanks

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:24:39 GMT, A strange species called
spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

I can't tell you about preserving subtitles because I have not copied
a DVD to another one. I am just importing video where I add my own
titles/chapters etc. When you say subtitles do you mean writing on
screen? If so, I don't have a clue about this.

As far as Audio goes, I have not had any sync problems at all.

Nero does take blooming ages to burn a DVD. If I have 1 hour of video
to burn, it takes 1 hour and a bit more. Equal to or more than real
time!

John

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A Number of us won't use Nero's VideoExpress, because
it has a bad habit of reencoding into it's own codec, anything
it gets its hands on. This not only totally unnecessary, if you
have DVD compliant MPEG to start with, but can introduce
compatibility issues later.

As I mentioned before I prefer the speed and smooth
workflow of TDA, I also like that with a few easy tricks
you can produce just about any visual effect you want in
the menus. For more complex and unusual menu actions
as well as multiple audio tracks and subtitles, I like DVD
Lab Pro. I've found that 99.8% of the DVDs I have
made, and all those that weren't just experiments to see if
something could be done, were made with TDA.

Now, my primary sources are DVD compliant MPEG,
(my hardware MPEG capture card or a RW disk from
my DVD Recorder) so there is no further encoding
required at all. I also own and use MPEG Encoders to
create DVD Compliant MPEG from other sources, I feel
that a separate encoding step produces a better result
than that provided by the built-in encoding used by Nero
Video Express and other such all-in-one programs.

Despite "Bob"'s comments many find MF4 to be the next
easiest Authoring program to use, and quite effective. It
can be set to not further encode DVD compliant MPEG.
VideoReDo has a setting to provide for the slight difference
in the MPEG input requirements of the "Movie Factory"
programs.

Luck;
Ken

Movie Factory does a great job as long as you capture compliant files. If
you have to render it sucks, but if you capture video into compliant files
there is no rendering.


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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:53:21 +0000, John <road@runner.com> wrote:

Yes. It is the written statement of the words spoken in the movie.

That is not bad at all. The Two Pass rendering in MF4 takes 1 hour for
a 10 minute clip. And then sometimes the audio is not in sync and
there are no subtitles because they were lost somewhere in the
process.

DVD Shrink has an authoring capability that is pretty nice and it does
not screw up the audio nor does it lose the subtitles. But it does not
have a menu capability - you have to access the individual clips using
Chapter search. That's not too bad if all you have is a few clips but
if you have a bunch you will have to write the names down to know
which one corresponds to a Chapter.

I understand that development of Shrink has stopped. That's really a
shame because it is one of the very few applications dealing with DVD
editing that is bug-free. Maybe the developer could be encouraged to
finish his masterpiece - it would not take much to add menus.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw