Glenn Beck brought out an interesting point of fact that shows both
candidates are mouthing off just to make people THINK the candidates
are going to do something about an issue, when there is nothing they
can do about it.

Both were shown mouthing off about how huge oil companies like Exxon
are NOT paying enough taxes and how both candidates want to increase
those taxes.

WAKE UP AMERICA!

As Mr. Beck pointed out, YOU, yes you America, owns Exxon!
Exxon is NOT a private company. Exxon IS a publicly owned company
through the sales of stocks and listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
Somewhere between 40 and 50% of the stock it sells is owned by people
just like you. Hell, I probably own some stocks and don't even know
it.

The remainder of the stock, is owned by INSTITUTIONS. Less than 3% of
the stock is owned by the company officials.

Hillary and Barack claim Exxon doesn't pay enough taxes.
Hellllllooooo. Stocks pay dividends. Dividends are taxable. Not only
does the recipient pay taxes, but so does the incorporation. That
isn't enough? Hillary and Barack now want to increase YOUR taxes.
Yes America, that is right. As you own Exxon, if taxes are increased,
guess who pays those taxes?

So why are you sitting there cheering them on and agreeing with them?
You go right ahead. Vote for these idiots and you'll soon be paying
higher taxes on those stock dividends you get, which in turn, raises
the cost of fuel you put in your cars.

Should Hillary, God forbid, should become President, she would rely
totally on her husbands experience in that office.

If Barack gets the nod, he will need a running mate with seniority
that has the experience to back him up or he'll fall flat on his face
within a year. Personally, Barack is unqualified for the office. What
exactly is his history as a politician? Nothing. He's not noted for
having done anything than take up space. What he is, is a snake oil
salesman.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:40:44 -0500, John Smith wrote:

I'm no economics expert, but this seems like total bollocks to me.
Corporations pay tax (some nowhere near enough), whether publicly or
privately owned.

Individuals pay tax on their income, whatever the source of that income.
That's the way things are. Fair and equitable (well, in theory).

Doesn't necessarily follow.

Nothing like having an ex-president in the family, eh?

I'm pretty sire Mr. Obama is quite aware of this fact. Or perhaps you
could contact him to give him this advice, just in case.

Well, it's not as if any president when elected for the first time has
ever done the job before. Seems to me there's a fair bit of hope and
trust going on with all these voters. Imagine, voting for a guy who has
never done the job before. Shocking!

As opposed to GWB who was- an oil salesman :-)

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On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:40:44 -0500, John Smith <nobody@ca.res> wrote:

Either is better than bush or McCain.

John Smith <nobody@ca.res> wrote in
news:skq2t3tj27tsclpkcg3fnvru0ast4r31br@4ax.com:

So not to worry... Use Google or Wikipedia to go back and look up
Geraldine Ferraro - the last time the Democrats did this stupid
stunt. It's all the headlines until the general election, and then
the Republicans could put up Daffy Duck and win by a landslide.

McCain is almost sure to be our next president. Not only is he
strong on defense, but also he's a better statesman than Bush
with both parties [of USA politics] and he'll pick and run a more
competent and efficient organization than Bush did.

Any reasonable and intelligent person knows that the primary issues
facing America are Islamofacism and then our economy, in that order.

Neither Clinton nor Obama are up to speed... when it comes down to it,
only a small demographic of the population cares about what color or
what sex our leader(s) are/is. It's all about job performance and
priorities. Bush kept in there because while he's quite the idiot,
he's real, genuine, and unwavering with reagards to keeping our nation
safe. McCain will be the same.

Obama wants to be a niggernazi for more respect for the blacks, and
Clinton wants to be a feminazi and get more [something] for women...

I don't what womens' problems are anyway? Hell, they got half the
money and *ALL* the pussy????

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John Smith wrote:
America may own Exxon, but stockholders have little or no control over
management. Control is exercised by managers and directors.

Corporations own the government that we count on to oversee them. And
while both parties are beholden to corporations, Democrats have
historically done a slightly better job of representing the average guy.
Corporations, who are legal ("juristic") persons in America, pay less
than their fair share of taxes, and are, collectively, America's
criminal class. They steal more money and hurt more people each year
than all the petty street criminals can manage in a lifetime. "Owners"
have little say over this behavior.

As to Barrack Obama's qualifications, what do you think is needed? In
terms of experience, Richard Nixon was highly qualified but he was a
disastrous president. Obama served eight years in the Illinois Senate
and two years in the U.S. Senate. He has experience as law professor,
civil rights attorney and community organizer. And where the
Republicans have sold us the politics of fear these past seven years,
Obama's message is one of hope.

I doubt very much that Americans will elect another fear-monger this
November. The idea of four more years of Bush policies that McCain
would represent is too much to swallow. A world that has been so
sharply divided by the ruinous policies of the neocons does not need
another American president who sees military violence as the solution to
its problems.

And stop watching Glenn Beck, for Pete's sake. You actually become
dumber every time you watch this guy. Only Bill O'Reilly and Shaun
Hannity are worse. Remember Beck's interview with (now) Congressman
Keith Ellison? http://mediamatters.org/items/200611150004

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:17:53 -0500, SgtMinor
<Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote:

Ya...8 years in the Ohio Senate and 127 'present' votes. What the hell
is that?
His message is hope? I thought it was Change? Ok...give us some
examples where he saw hope and delivered. Show us his track record on
'hope' because you don't want someone learning as they go when they
get into the White House.

You won't answer because you can't give any answers.

Lookout wrote:
What? That you really are an ugly - ugly - ugly minded man, and a player
hater. That's the only answer anyone should be coming back with
concerning you, period. You are an ugly man, ugly.

Sir, you have a nice day.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:55:24 -0500, Malcolm X <Malcolm@X.com> wrote:

Just as I predicted...you won't answer because you can't cite one
instance of 'hope'. Obama is as empty as you are. Anyone who votes for
him is an idiot.

Lookout wrote:
Sir, that has nothing to do with this. You are a rude and obnoxious man.
I guess that's just the way you are rude, obnoxious and out of control,
at all times day or night and sitting in front of a computer.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:08:36 -0500, Malcolm X <Malcolm@X.com> wrote:

You can't come up with anything. Stop whining.

Lookout wrote:
Sir, your head is ten bricks hard, the message is not getting through to
you, and you need a military Huggie put on you and chains, like you
going off in this NG is going to do anything, obnoxious man.

I am sure someone has told you this before about your rundness and
obnoxiousness, wanting to put you in a military Huggie and chains. You
are a monster.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:41:56 -0500, Malcolm X <Malcolm@X.com> wrote:

And like every other Obama supporter you can't answer the question.
I've nailed two local organizers on talk radio and they were as
stumped as you are. Face it..he's an empty vote. He's never done a
damn thing for anyone and the only reason you're voting for him is his
skin color.

Lookout wrote:
I don't even care about Obama. I have never voted in my life and never
will. The message is not getting through to you, because you are some
kind of monster that escaped out of the military.

Lookout wrote:

Actually, Barrack Obama served as a legislator in the Illinois Senate.
His "present" votes are not a big problem for me. Just look how the
"decider' has destroyed our Constitution, brought the country to the
brink of bankruptcy, and is leaving a divided world with few friends for
America in his wake. Give me a "present" vote any time, rather than
this mess.

You can read more about the context of some of Obama's "present" votes
here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us...cs/20obama.htm

As far as the politics of hope is concerned, check out Obama's work as a
community organizer. Working with people with a wide diversity of
backgrounds he spent 3 years in the community at a salary of 13,000
dollars per year. You will not find many people in that community with
a negative opinion of the man and many will tell you that he inspired
them and brought hope to their dismal existence. And I'm not the only
one who has noted his message of hope. If you are truly interested in
challenging your own biases you may want to do some searches and you'll
come up with stories like this one: "Obama brings message of hope"
http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/pag....html?nav=5021
or this one from the New Hampshire Concord Monitor: "Obama inherits
Reagan message of hope, bipartisanship. Gipper lacked foreign policy
experience too."
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/p...335/1017/RSS06

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:47:20 -0500, SgtMinor
<Sarge@the.old.folks.home.invalid> wrote:

As a state and US senator he hasn't done shit.
He brings a "message of hope". Show me where he's actually came
through on it. He's making empty statements that he can't back up and
he's only where he is because blacks are voting for him only because
of his color.

As far as bush is concerned he's the biggest idiot we've ever had in
the White House.

Lookout wrote:

Dood! Spit the hook, fer crissakes.

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Lookout wrote:

Lookout the Military Monster, are you drunk or something and this makes
you a rude and obnoxious little man?

The man kept you in your military monster fatigues, bread and water. So
why are you complaining?

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:10:22 -0500, Malcolm X <Malcolm@X.com> wrote:

Military? Nah.
Yet you can't answer. Why?

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:07:31 -0800, Blinky the Shark
<no.spam@box.invalid> wrote:

Nah..it's fun pulling him in.

Lookout wrote:

LOL, you couldn't spit the hook if your life depended upon it.

let me take some notes here:

1) Does your wife out rank you and she wears the pants in the family?

2) Because your wife wears the pants does that make you come to the NG o
acting like rabid dog, trying to be a man?

3) When you go to your hole in the wall in your house and get chained in
for the night by your wife are you comfortable? What happens when you
have to go to the potty?

If you can answer those questions, I'll get your paperwork started for
you admittance into the asylum.

I got more questions after you are committed.