- meta tags 2
- Posted by Homeworker on September 17th, 2007
Thnks for replies to previous post , however in absence of
any avdice or links that lead to what i consider to be authorititive sources
IE ...who issue meta tags ? suggests their use ? recommends their
implementation and issues allowable TYPES ? etc , comprehensive
list of uptodate tags in use etc etc etc
All i feel i can offer at present is a set of metatags i intened to use
and ask for comments ............ ( they were copied ? adjusted from
aleading web page
rsult on google )
<TITLE>any title i wish to use </TITLE>
<meta name="KEYWORDS" content=" a, series, of , keywords">
<meta name="DESCRIPTION" content=" a short desription of the page ">
<meta name="ABSTRACT" content="whats different about this to description
above ">
<meta name="COPYRIGHT" content="1999">
<meta name="RESOURCE-TYPE" content="document">
<meta name="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">
<meta name="REVISIT-AFTER" content="8 Days">
<meta name="AUTHOR" content="me">
Questions
1) any obvious missing tags ?
2) whats difference between description and abstract
3)whats the point of copyright
4) whats a resouce type and WHY ? whats its benefit
any comments / advice futher appreciate
- Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on September 17th, 2007
Homeworker wrote:
You have had good advice in your other posts.
The author of the page.
You can build a conforming web page with no meta tags. They are not
required.
I've already given you a list of meta tags you should implement.
Which page was that?
<title>..</title> is required. See the W3C guidelines.
Keywords are ignored by all major search engines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_tag
"This is due in part to the nearly infinite re-occurrence (keyword
stuffing) of meta elements and/or to attempts by unscrupulous website
placement consultants to manipulate (spamdexing) or otherwise circumvent
search engine ranking algorithms. "
This one is ok. Google may show it as the little blurb with your link.
See the above Wikipedia page.
Not important.
Reaffirms your copyright, but not required. You should place your
copyright notice on the page itself, usually in the footer.
No relevant use.
Will tell the search engines to .. well .. index and follow links; but
it is the default state, so not necessary unless you want to *change*
the default state to something else, such as "noindex, nofollow" (bot
stops there), or "index, nofollow" (bot indexes this page, but doesn't
follow links, or .. you get the picture.
Generally ignored. The information should be in the HTTP server header.
Usually used if you didn't write the content, but created the page.
Yes, the ones I gave you earlier, about language.
You don't need "abstract"
See above.
Type of resource - however all web pages are 'documents' (except the
obvious direct links to images or other binary files)
You should stop obsessing with this! :-)
Question for you: what DOCTYPE are you using for your pages?
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
- Posted by Homeworker on September 17th, 2007
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
above means nowt to me , i am using a standard shopping cart system with
CONTENT
pages , above is generated auto , but i have opportunity to enter custom
metas
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- Posted by Homeworker on September 17th, 2007
whats a http header ?
also this looks like th most useful "authoritive" document
i have came acroos so far ..........this ones worth studying !
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/...html#h-7.4.4.3
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- Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on September 17th, 2007
Homeworker wrote:
Here is the HTTP header for the link you listed:
Response Headers -
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/...html#h-7.4.4.3
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:39:13 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Debian) PHP/4.4.4-8+etch4
Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:37:50 GMT
Etag: "35c741b0e0f80"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 74283
Cache-Control: max-age=21600
Expires: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:39:13 GMT
p3p: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml"
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
200 OK
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
- Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on September 17th, 2007
Homeworker wrote:
From the W3C link in your other post:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
...is best, as Internet Explorer does not even recognize properly-served
XHTML. (Note I said properly served. You can cheat and serve it as
text/html, but properly served is application/xhtml+xml. See the
abstract at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/
Well, then your cart system probably doesn't follow the rigid standards
as detailed at the W3C site.
So you aren't writing these pages yourself? In my opinion then, you can
just forget about it and concentrate on your sales and products.
Verify your pages here:
http://validator.w3.org/
and for CSS here:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
- Posted by why? on September 17th, 2007
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:32:35 GMT, Homeworker wrote:
Beyond the well documented basics. many authors just make then up as
they go along.
See previous suggestions.
1 example is hardly a good example.
<snip>
Besides the ones I snipped, or those that mean something to your
application that I can't even begin to guess what you want.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/description
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abstract
Beyond what the author of the example meant it to be?
www.google.com
Ask the page author?
Ask the experts
Copyright and Related Rights
Copyright is a legal term describing rights given to creators for their
literary ... The kinds of works covered by copyright include: literary
works such as ...
www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/copyright.html - 7k - Cached - Similar pages
What the author of the example meant it to be.
That's funny.
Me
- Posted by why? on September 17th, 2007
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:29:05 GMT, Homeworker wrote:
Remembering this is a definition of the syntax and a few examples of
it's use. It's not , as you asked
" IE ...who issue meta tags ? suggests their use ? recommends their
implementation and issues allowable TYPES ? etc , comprehensive
list of uptodate tags in use etc etc etc "
Which is why I at least didn't post it.
The bit you aren't getting is,
HTML lets authors specify meta data -- information about a document
rather than document content -- in a variety of ways.
This specification **does not** define a set of legal meta data
properties. The meaning of a property and the set of legal values for
that property should be defined in a reference lexicon called a profile.
For example, a profile designed to help search engines index documents
might define properties such as "author", "copyright", "keywords", etc.
The META element can be used to identify properties of a document (e.g.,
author, expiration date, a list of key words, etc.) and assign values to
those properties. This specification does not define a normative set of
properties.
The only other lists , or uses of specific tags are the RFCs, there are
dozens. Try rfc1945 it has a few in the 1 document, see section 10.
Microsoft made a few up as well.
So did many other places.
www.google.com a bit more.
Me