I have a wired router upstairs connected to my modem and the internet,
attached is my desktop. Downstairs I have a wireless router that is
connected to this router. I am unable to see shared folders between
wirelessly connected computers and my desktop.
I thought I should be able to do it. It is not a firewall issue as I have
disable them.
Any ideas why?
Thanks

Molecule wrote:
Probably because you need access points upstairs & downstairs and not
wireless routers.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:12:43 GMT, Molecule wrote:

Not a good subject line, bits of it are vague :-)

The OS may not matter, you didn't say. Nor did you mention the router
brands/models/software version.

The downstairs router is connected to the upstairs router how? Wired by
the looks of it.

It's assumed -

upstairs desktop is okay for internet access.

wireless computer downstairs sees the downstairs router and gets an IP
address / good signal.

Unable to see how...

Can't see the computer by name or IP address?

Created the share, but get a permissions error? Create the same username
account on each PC. Set the permissions on the share for the account.

Be careful doing this, at least unplug the internet connection. Setup
the routers / computers. Then the internet goes back in once all the
security is configured.

You may be in the situation where you have 2 networks, depends on what
the tcp/ip settings (IP, gateway, subnet mask) are.

The general idea is get the upstairs wired going. Then you extend the
upstairs network with a wireless access point (the wireless box
downstairs). On the downstairs router you usually have an option to set
them to operate in several modes - A router as upstairs or what you want
as an access point. My belkin has a 3rd mode and can't remember what it
may have been.

The access point mode makes downstairs an extension of the same network
as upstairs is, it turns off the routing bit, built in FW perhaps (still
on on the upstairs router and some software fw on the computers). You
still need to set the basic security and MAC address restrictions.

You should try and set the downstairs router (now an access point) to
fixed address in the same range as the upstirs router. That way you know
what should be connected. I prefer it that way, but you may find it
easier to leave it to get an address automatically. Read the router
manuals.



Me

"Molecule" <never@home.me> wrote:

You need to simplify your network, preferably to the point where only
one router is needed.

Move your wireless router upstairs and connect it to the modem and to
the desktop, replacing the wired router.

Can you now connect to the wireless computers downstairs? If so
then everything should be working. If not, please describe the
situation, including any error messages from the router and/or the
wireless computers.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Wow thanks,
I got two routers because I live in the upstair flat and I had a wired
router and a couple lives downstairs and had a wireless router. I hooked
them up with a cable so they are happy with their wireless and I am happy
with the wired. We did not want an all wireless network ( long story )
The computers all run XP PRO.
The wired router is the netgear rp614 and the wireless is the Buffalo
wbr-g54
All computers work fine, the router downstairs just get an ip address from
the wired router, I wanted to share a folder in my desktop so the wireless
computers can browse it. When I map it from a wireless laptop it says that
the path cannot be found.
Many thanks for your time




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Desk Rabbit wrote:
that may see if you can see your files.

Ron Martell wrote:
router connected to each other wired.

Each serves a purpose.

PWB wrote:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:44:54 GMT, Molecule wrote:

Ok better :-) links to manuals are nice too ;-) previous post mentioned
router make/model/software.

YW.

It's still easier to make the downstairs router an access point, so it's
a LAN extension instead of a 2nd network.

http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/RP614.asp
RP614 DSL Cable Routers
This describes RP614 versions, identified by reading the package or
the....

The links are to a v3 and v4 manual.

The netgear will be 192.168.0.xxx range,

http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-AirSta.../dp/B00007JNZY

says defaults 192.168.11.1


So can you ping your PC 192.168.0.someIP from a wireless PC
192.168.11.anotherIP ?

The way you have it just now,

a) wireless PC on 192.168.11.xxx to WBR-G54 WAN port at 192.168.0.yyy to
internet

So it's network 11.xxx WBR-G54 uses NAT to convert to 0.yyy uses NAT to
internet.

b) desktop PC on 192.168.0.zzz to internet.
This is a shorter path,
Network 0.zzz NAT to internet.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network...ss_translation)


The problem is you want to get from

c) wireless PC 11.xxx on WBR-G54 to RP614 to desktop 0.yyy and back
again. The routers don't know how to do this.

The RP614 doesn't know 11.xxx lives behind the WBR-G54 it only sees the
WBR-G54 WAN port as 1 of it's 0.yyy addresses. Then addresses on that
link are all converted to 0.yyy by the NAT on the WBR-G54 back to it's
11.xxx

So either make the WBR an access point so it passes untranlated (non
NAT) addresses across it's WAN to LAN ports i.e. all 0.yyy addresses.

Or you could try if both routers support it, enable a routing protocol
like RIP2, I haven't read the manuals fully.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIP2)

RIP2 is a method of exchanging information about routes, the WBR-G54
will then advertise it has 11.xxx on it. The RP614 should if supported
understand this and it should work.

Fine the downstairs router WAN port gets an IP from the upstairs LAN
side, so it's IP addy etc. is like your PC.

This gives both routers internet access.

What you need to do is compare the results of running, from a cmd prompt

ipconfig/all

you can save these to a file with

ipconfig/all > upstairs.txt


See previous post questions, depends if downstairs wireless can ping the
upstairs PC.

Is that \\computername\sharename
or
\\computeripaddress\sharename


The way you want to share the folder, I would create a user group on
your PC , create a special user account just for sharing , add that user
to the group and set the group permissions on the share.


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Me