Hi
I am looking to buy a camcorder and the particular model I would like is
half price if bought in the US. I have been told that the difference between
the US model and the UK model is that the UK model is a Pal camcorder where
as the US model is not.
Would I be able to use a non Pal camcorder here in the UK? What exactly is
the difference between Pal and not Pal?

Thanks

"David" <dms@onetel.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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black and white / color(depending what the americans use.. not sure myself..
but they don't use 'not pal'.. maybe 'mesecam' or 'secam'.. or is that the
french? i'm not sure).

David wrote:

You'd be able to use it to some degree, but you wouldn't be happy. The
video standard in the US is NTSC and is not compatible with the UK's PAL
standard. It's possible to convert between the formats, but I don't
really think you'd be happy having to do it. A little more reading:
http://www.strata.com/support/3dmanual/ch13/ch13_7.html

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:25:42 -0500, Rôgêr <abuse@your.isp.com> wrote:

Don´t forget 60 Hz - 50 Hz = Different speed for the film.

On 09 feb 2005 "David" <dms@onetel.com> wrote
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The big diff is in framerate and resolution. But most newer TV's and
VCR's take both Pal, SECAM and NTSC. Still it could easily get
complicated, so go for the european(Pal) cam.


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Dataspider wrote:

That's the cycle speed for the A.C. power. The frame rate for NTSC is
29.97 frames per second and 525 lines per frame. For PAL it's 25fps and
625 lines per frame.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:11:21 -0000, "David" <dms@onetel.com> wrote:

color tape on a Phase Alternating Line (PAL) VCR or view it on a PAL
TV.

In fact, in any major U.S. city with a lot of Indians or Pakistanis
there are many shops which will take tapes and convert them between
standards so that the people in Chicago can see tapes of the family
back home in Bombay and the newest Bollywood movies and vice-versa.

http://www.ntsc-tv.com/

http://www.alkenmrs.com/video/standards.html

[quote]
Most countries around the World use one of
three main television broadcast Standards.

These three main standards are NTSC, PAL and SECAM.
However, each standard is incompatible with the other.
For example, a video recording made in the UK could not be played on
US standard VCR's or shown on the TV.
[close quote]

Dataspider wrote:

I doubt he'll be trying to jam film into a video camera.

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Joel Rubin wrote:

Or, as they say here in Hollywood: Never Twice the Same Color.

It's felt that it's not the best of the standards, even though it's
ours. And no, I can't give you the tech argument for that; I'm a
camera operator, but I leave the tech stuff for the video engineers that
are tweaking the signal from our cameras, back in the control room.

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Thanks for all your help.

It seems from what everyone has been saying, that there would only be a
problem if I where to use it with a video recorder or a TV.

If I just use the camcorder to record and then to view the recorded tapes on
the camcorder, would that still be a problem?
And then would I be able to copy the recording onto my laptop and then onto
a disc?




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David wrote:

Yes, it would be a problem. You could video tape things and watch them
on the camera's built in video screen. But hooking it up to *any* PAL
devices, such as televisions or VCRs is going to be a problem, it no
workee. You could capture the video to your computer, do some converting
and output to PAL format disks.

Short version: spend the extra bucks, get the PAL camera.

So, "Don´t forget 60 Hz - 50 Hz = Different speed for the film."

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:20:14 +0100, Dataspider <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Dataspider wrote:
Okay, since you insist, the "film" goes through a camcorder at 60 Hz,
even though there is no film and that's not the speed of the tape but
the cycles per second of the electricity that you plug the charger into
(the camera itself works on DC, not AC).

On 9 Feb 2005 18:47:58 GMT, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid>
wrote:

Well, that's an artifact of early adaption. The U.S. had the first
color TV standard and later ones were better. Of course, there have
since been add ons to NTSC (and PAL and SECAM) and, supposedly, the
analog color TV standards are close to the end of their lives.

At least we got the RCA standard rather than the CBS standard which
involved a spinning wheel with colored filters. (But CBS won the
extended play phonograph record race over RCA with 33's beating out
45's.)

Joel Rubin wrote:

That makes sense.

Yeah. Looks like I'll be forced to buy a new set, before long.
Since I make television, I don't watch much television; it's too much
like the bus driver taking drives on his day off. My "home theatre"
is a monphonic 20" portable.

Mr. Paley is spinnning, too -- in his grave, over your diss of the
wheel.

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When I was heavily into stereo equipment, Stereophile magazine (the one
promoting very high end stuff) did a survey of professional musicians,
many in the orchestra. According to them, most used really cheap stereos
or boomboxes. But when they listened to music on them they "heard" high
end sounds.