In one hour it will be Remembrance Sunday

They shall not grow old as we who are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn:
At the going down of the sun and in the morning:
we will remember them.

Rifleman - Late 34 Fd Sqn RE, A Coy 6LI and Recce Pl 4RGJ

With a rumble and a belch rifleman decided to put the World to rights with
this little speech from the heart...

Well said.
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rifleman said:

Hang on a sec while I fill my glass and raise it to those who died for their
country.

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Hic!

rifleman said:

This bottle is going to "faire longue feu".

On 08 Nov 2003, rifleman wrote

The concept of "Remembrance Sunday" bugs me -- Remembrance Day should
be respected on Remembrance Day.

The convenience of shifting it to a Sunday is, to my mind,
deeply disrespectful.

"Let's all remember what happened at the 11th hour of the 11th day of
the 11th month. Oops: hang on a minute -- that's a weekday, so I'll
be a bit tied up; I can fit some remembrance in on the 8th, if that
suits everybody else."

It's like moving Christmas Day to the nearest weekend.

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Harvey Van Sickle said:

Agreed, but as the church only works on Sunday.............

With a rumble and a belch Harvey Van Sickle decided to put the World to
rights with this little speech from the heart...

Couldn't agree more, but it's just not a practical thing to expect - unless
they made it a compulsory bank holiday.

SSSSHHHHH!!
Someone important might be reading this !!
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On 08 Nov 2003, Brian H¹© wrote

Sorry: we can't blame the church for this one -- it's the
*congregation* that only goes to church on a Sunday, which is an
entirely different thing.

Many churches hold daily services; all are more than happy to hold
special services when major festivals fall in the week. That nobody
will come along except on a Sunday (and even then only under
sufferance) is not the church's decision.

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Harvey Van Sickle said:

Sorry, I was just being flippant.
It is too closely related to a "religious" event for my liking.
I fully agree that if the 11th falls on a week day, it should be nonoured on a
week day, even if it needs to become a bank holiday.
Christmas always happens on the 25th.
July the 4th always happens on July the 4th (for our American cousins).
So why can't Armistice day take place on the 11th?

On 08 Nov 2003, slumpy wrote
Other countries manage to do that: it's a statutory holiday in Canada,
for example (on the 11th, not on the nearest Monday).

I moved to the UK in 1982, having spent my first 30 years in Canada.
It really surprised me to discover that the UK, of all places, had
shunted the remembrance ceremonies to the nearest weekend.

(It's only in the last 10 years or so that we in the UK have
reintroduced the silence at 11 a.m. on the 11th.)

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Harvey

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With a rumble and a belch Harvey Van Sickle decided to put the World to
rights with this little speech from the heart...

Sunday morning at 11am ? I'm usually asleep ;-)
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On 08 Nov 2003, Brian H¹© wrote

(I wondered if that was what you were getting at, but thought I'd bat
it straight and see......)

Exactly: shifting it for the sake of convenience just isn't right.

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Harvey

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With a rumble and a belch Brian H¹© decided to put the World to rights with
this little speech from the heart...

I smell a campaign starting...
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Harvey Van Sickle said:

Hell, the 25th December is a festivity for enterprise, all industries around the
world are making a disgusting profit from people by telling children all over
the world that they have to have the lates, most expensive (battery operated)
shit that some numbnuts has created for the sake of making money.
The same with easter, and the same for selling fireworks for "important" days.
Can't disrupt that now can we?

slumpy said:

Bloody right, let's have the 11th on the 11th.

With a rumble and a belch Brian H¹© decided to put the World to rights with
this little speech from the heart...

OK, what time shall we all (and I mean all) meet at Parliament Square
tomorrow morning ? 7am too early ?
You make the banners and I'll get printing the leaflets....
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"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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But don't forget that the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month was
the cessation of hostilities for the Great War. Since then we have had the
Second World War, Korea, Suez, Malaya, Borneo, Northern Ireland, The
Falklands, and two Gulf wars, none of which finished at 1100 hrs on 11/11.
So Remembrance Sunday, although the nearest Sunday to 11/11 is to remember
ALL our servicemen and women who died in ALL the theatres of war since WWI
as well as those who fell in WWI.

On 09 Nov 2003, rifleman wrote

Indeed; but for me, shifting the main ceremonies from the 11th to a
more convenient week-end doesn't make them more representative: it
just lowers the quality of the remembrance for all of them.

I'd compare it to shifting a WWI war memorial from the centre of the
village green to somewhere behind the bus station, on the basis that
there's more room back there for a few more memorials without
cluttering up the green.

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Harvey

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