Running XP SP2 with Outlook Express 6 on Virginmedia cable broadband.

Is there any recommended free method of sending faxes, instead of signing up
with efax or popfax etc?? I imagine someone has invented freeware to do
this.

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"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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under start, all programs, accessories, communication. It will open a wizard
to send a fax. I had tried it a while back, and gave up before I finished,
and just dug out my old fax machine. It will supposedly work though if you
want to play around with it.
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corner drug dealer an unlicensed Pharmacist.

They call it a multi-function printer.

Buy a printer with fax capability, and you can print to any fax machine
anywhere. The trouble with fax is that it uses telephone lines, and this
requires dialiing, and connecting over a telephone line. You can e-mail a
file for free ...




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.."Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Yes, the problem is that we don't have a phone line attached to the
computer, which is on cable broadband, so the standard XP gizmo doesn't
work.

Our old fax machine gave up the ghost many years ago, and new ones are
expensive.

My better half sends occasional faxes on behalf of Amnesty who, for reasons
best known to themselves, only give fax numbers, not e-mail addresses.
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"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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Expensive? I just looked at one newspaper ad and found an all-in-one for
$130, actually shopping for a device may turn up one that is priced at under
$100. Copy, scan, fax, and print all in one device. When it runs out of ink,
buy another one.

Amnesty might want to avoid getting a virus sent to them, a fax is far safer
in this respect.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Everything's relative. Early retirement and living on a pension has its
drawbacks.

I certainly couldn't afford, economically or environmentally, to invest in
planned obsolescence.

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"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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Your only option is to subscribe to a fax service
which will convert email or web to fax and send them
for you, for a fee of course.
Some are cheaper than others.

"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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In today's paper, there is a fax machine that is free. Surely you have room
in the budget to float a mail-in-rebate for a couple of weeks.

In any case, you must have a telephone line to send a fax. While it is
possible these days to make a phone call over the internet from your
computer to a phone or to another computer, they do not support fax
capability with this technology yet.

And, you ought not be concerned jwith the planned obsolescence because if
the machine is used to send but not receive, the ink will last forever.

"Neil Green" <nrgreenNOT@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Couldn't he get a fax modem for the computer to facilitate the dial-out?
Then, all he would need is to generate the documents he wants to send, and
select the Fax Printer at print time. He would have to scan documents into
the computer, or create them with his favorite application, then when it
comes time to print, select the Fax from the drop down list of printers. The
modem does the dialing and sending.

This assumes he has wired phone service, of course.

The broadband connection still provides the internet connection, but the
dial up cability is used to support fax -- if he does it right, it will
support both sending and receiving. And, a fax modem is very cheap.

Have you thought about installing a fax modem in your computer?

You are used to the modem providing the dial up internet that has been
replaced by a broadband connection, but many modems also provide fax
capability. You select the fax at print time -- open a file, make the
desired edits and print, then select Fax as the printer. The modem grabs the
phone line, makes the connection, then drops the line when finished. The
broadband is never affected.

The modem will also monitor the phone line for incoming faxes, and store
them as a file(s) on your machine. You open the stored file and print if
desired, or simply read on screen.

I'm not sure, but a 56K Fax modem should cost about $20. You might already
have a modem in your machine, and just need to plug the wire in.





"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Indeed, and that's what I use here from time to time
when I need to send a fax.
I have an old 14400 baud external modem which I got
free, but which is fast enough for faxes, and I find
the Windows software more than adequate.
I think I have a couple of internal 56k modems around
somewhere as well.
The OP's problem lies here:
"Yes, the problem is that we don't have a phone line
attached to the computer, which is on cable broadband,
so the standard XP gizmo doesn't work."
I know several people who no longer have a landline,
and use either a mobile phone or voice over IP, maybe
Paul U is one of them.

"Neil Green" <nrgreenNOT@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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He didn't say he had no land line, he only said it was not plugged into his
computer. He did say that he once had a fax, but it stopped working, this
implies the probablility of a phone line that is available but not connected
to the computer.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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We do have a landline, but no outlets close to where the (desktop-type)
computer is located.

However, it looks as if we'll have to a) run extension cable, b) use
www.jfax.com or an equivalent or c) run down to the local chemist's shop and
use their fax!

I believe you can send text messages to mobile phones from a computer using
the e-mail system. I was just surprised that there is no direct equivalent
for faxes.

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"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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For a fee, yes.

There are.

"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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A text message is more like email than a fax. The technology is completely
different.

A fax is sent line by line, not letter by letter. A fax is scanned and the
data collected is sent the same way it is collected. A line of data is not a
character-high line, it is a dot-high line. The fax does not know what the
arrangement of dots will look like when done. But an email is a collection
of characters, and the characters are all known sets of data in and of
themselves. An A or an X for example is always an A or an X, but any given
dot in the letter is only known as that particular dot, and the arrangement
of the surrounding dots are only known as dots or _not dots_. In a fax, the
scanner scans from left to right and collects all of the dots on the line,
then moves to the next line and scans again, then the next line, and so on
to the end of the page. It sends data that repeats the dots on a line from
left to right, then moves to the next line and prints those dots, then the
next line and so on. There are varying ways to collect the data, but the end
result is always the same. They can not convert a fax scan to an e-mail
arrangement unless the fax scanner has character recognition to read the
entire document after it is scanned and convert the result to text.

Your question raises a good point though -- why not scan the lines of data
and send them over broadband to a fax printer to be printed? A "fax printer"
(software in the computer called at print time) takes text -- a Word
document, for example -- and converts it to lines of dots, so that part of
the problem is already solved. The trouble becomes, the disconnect between
broadband and the telephone system. A text message is essentially an e-mail,
the account is 999.555.1212@vtext.com <whatever>, but the wired-phone system
hasn't got the same capability. Cell technology is more akin to voice over
IP, whereas the old telephone system (and fax) is a pure analog expereince,
so the limitations are greater.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message ...
Exactly. However, in the absence of any other solution, is there likely to
be a problem if I hitch up a telephone modem, to be used purely for faxing
effectively as a printer, while continuing to use the normal broadband cable
modem for everything else? Any software conflicts etc?

I see they can be purchased on Ebay for less than £10.

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"Paul U" <pju@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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I can't see any problem with that solution.

You just have to be sure that you do not link the internet services to a
dial-up service. The modem can be set to only respond to requests to fax --
either send or receive -- and ignore other data services.

I can't think of any problem at all. I use a fax machine connected to a
computer, and compose documents with the software appls that I have, then
choose FAX from the print menu while connected to the 'net through broadband
(fiber optic) services. My connection to the fax machine is a bit different
than you will have, but I see no reason that you cannot fax directly from
the PC and avoid affecting the broadband connection on a different port
inside your maching.

I'd take a drive to town for that modem. I think you can buy one at your
equivelent of Best Buy for the same price and take it home with you. I don't
think eBay will give you that much of a discount. On my side of the pond we
have an electronic super store called Fry's. They had a printer/fax/scanner
for free after the mail in rebate. You probably need a printer from time to
time, so you get a solution to your problem, plus a bonus and the whole
thing is free at the end of the day. If you don't need the printer, then you
will never have to buy ink, and this will make faxing free. You also get the
benefit of a scanner.

Clearly the asnwer to your question is an opportunity to get a device that
provides the solution and way more at a price far below what you were
expecting.

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