Look familiar Thor?

alt.computer

comp.graphics.apps.photoshop

alt.graphics.photoshop

alt.os.windows-xp

alt.computer.workshop

uk.adverts.computer

alt.computers

LJ

"Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2qqjkaF11c0lfU1@uni-berlin.de...

Um, no. What are you getting at? Please elaborate.

The groups you visited in the past, maybe you don't visit all of them now.

LJ

"Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2qqoqvF11vtatU1@uni-berlin.de...
FYI, all but two (alt.computer and alt.os.windows-xp) of the groups you
listed are most likely the result of my replies to messages that were
crossposted by the OP to those other groups, not my "visiting" them,
subscribing to, or otherwise participating in them. Others are simply other
people that also use the nickname "thor", but are clearly not me when you
look at the headers. I haven't directly participated in any of those groups,
except the two I pointed out. Given the effect of replying to crossposts,
you need to dig a little deeper if you want a more accurate picture of where
a person "hangs his hat" so to speak.

There millions who post to unset I didn't check the headers so may have not
visited those groups..

They had man@arms.com as the invalid email though.

Anyway Thor we haven't had a good relationship (via the internet obviously)
most of your post are helpful. That's if your not criticizing me..

Can you recommend any good shareware Anti Trojan Programs?

If you can accept a *Internet handshake*

Cheers.

LJ

"Thor" <man@arms.com> wrote in message
news:10kgljm6pomgs7b@corp.supernews.com...
Here's more thorough research. :-)

Based on posts in this group, on or about 8/12/04 you changed your message
reply address from "@yahoo.com" to Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com.
Searches for the name Lloyd Jones in combination with those two addresses,
indicates that you have unique posts in the following groups, and no
evidence of crossposting, so indications are strong that you have
participated in these groups directly. (and that you apparantly have a
massive penchant for pirateware, LOL!). There may be more, but I opted to
not check every single page of search results.

frequented groups with approximate post totals

alt.computer (354)
alt.astronomy (161)
alt.hacking (121)
alt.2600.hackers (267)
alt.cracks (747)
alt.2600.crackz (54)
alt.music (1)
alt.test (1)




via crosspost replies you evidently have a few posts in at least these
following groups, but probably didn't participate directly in them:

24hoursupport.helpdesk
alt.certification.a-plus
alt.fan.art-bell
sci.astro
sci.physics
sci.skeptic
alt.comics
alt.comp
alt.computers
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
alt.comp.hardware
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
comp.sys.intel
alt.atheism
alt.astrology

Your research is wrong Thor.

The only groups I visit out of the one's you stated is:

alt.computer

and

alt.astronomy

And I think I sent one to alt.test a while ago.

You do know that there are many people with the name Lloyd Jones and use the
same initials LJ in the world right??

I was right about the groups you have visited though.

So no *hand shake*

That's ok.

LJ

"Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2qr45kF124b97U1@uni-berlin.de...
yes, many did, but you also must look at the other groups that those
messages were crossposted to, to deduce where the originating message came
from. You'll find that all the posts in the groups other than the ones I
aknowledged to have posted to directly, there are several groups crossposted
in those messages, along with alt.computer, which is the group from which I
read and replied to them.

Nope. I just use decent antivirus programs like Etrust, and Avast. Never
really had a need for trojan-specific scanners.
I don't have a personal issue with you Lloyd. Just some of the advice you
have given on occasion, and the public service announcement-type posts. I
responded accordingly. You should realize by now that if someone thinks you
are wrong in what you posted they will typically tell you so. I think you
mean well enough, unlike some who have frequented this group from time to
time, who simply want to stir things up and be a troll.

I can accept a handshake, no problem. Doesn't mean I won't reply negatively
to one of your posts in the future, though. Just don't take it personally.
Many here have had some real flame-wars on occasion and still manage to get
along in the long-term.

Ok mate

I will have a look at the Anti Virus Programs you suggested.

Have a nice day.

Regards,

Lloyd.

"Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2qr7loF12p104U1@uni-berlin.de...



Don't try to bullshit me Lloyd. My research goes deeper than mere names or
even just email addresses.

For reference, one of your posts today here in alt.computer.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer
Subject: Re: OT - Joke.
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:36:10 +0100
Lines: 5
Message-ID: <2qqk8kF11ok5dU1@uni-berlin.de>
References: <2qqfubF1281umU1@uni-berlin.de>
<MPG.1bb22a6a86d446ad989710@news.eclipse.co.uk>
Reply-To: "Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com>
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de
pG7aKB9h+ZmJxgpLfv8YrQt9LeGiNSugiMJ+kRgKV/iDXVOAC4
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original


Of course it's not funny if you haven't got a sense of humour.

LJ
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Now, one of your posts YESTERDAY in alt.2600.hackers


From: "Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.2600.hackers
Subject: Re: Hotmail (not hacking)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:04:39 +0100
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <2qoj4hF1137ecU1@uni-berlin.de>
References: <chkms4$sj6$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
<YyE1d.127715$Np3.5481217@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Reply-To: "Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com>
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de
hw28vIAiSAnIYQmyVsgsOQ5UKPuCeGoFJSTUMoTXbv2LKnRagj
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original


I've been on Gmail for about 3 weeks now and they haven't give me any
invites to send people.

How long was you on it Al before they give them to you?

LJ

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one of your posts just a couple of days ago in alt.hacking


From: "Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.hacking
Subject: Re: Lack of Posts?.....
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:38:49 +0100
Lines: 11
Message-ID: <2qm0omF10r27nU1@uni-berlin.de>
References: <2qlt8pF1133ujU1@uni-berlin.de> <2qlvm4F117qmeU1@uni-berlin.de>
<ci4i7h$bei$0@pita.alt.net>
Reply-To: "Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com>
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de
GLi6RmVRzq74VeQFSLRsuglV+VAjtKgUapQ0nxXTiv/Tzz5tJ/
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original


LOL

You'll be better off with a bullet-proof vest.

LJ
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Now, prior to 8/12/04 your messages to alt.computer (and the other groups)
were coming from a different server, and using a different reply address
("@yahoo,com", granted a common thing, but not when coupled with other
telling evidence).


here's one from alt.computer, so it proves you were posting HERE as recently
as last month with this type of header info. Unless you want us to believe
that all the Lloyd Jones posts from 8/12/04 and earlier, were from some
other "Lloyd Jones".


From: "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.computer
Subject: Look Familiar
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:19:25 +0100
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <cffu8p$bkc$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>
Reply-To: "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.55.10
X-Trace: news5.svr.pol.co.uk 1092320345 11916 217.134.55.10 (12 Aug 2004
14:19:05 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Aug 2004 14:19:05 GMT
X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409


Does this look familiar??

http://gemal.dk/browserspy/cdrive.html

If you can't see your hard drive well done.

LJ

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Around 8/11-8/12 you changed servers or services, and started using the
reply address Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com, and furthermore, just
prior to switching, in this very post, you even started directing replies to
this new address, while still using the old usenet service, header info and
reply address info in your headers, thus clearly connecting the two sources
for "Lloyd Jones" posts over the last several months and in the groups I
listed.



From: "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cracks
Subject: Re: Passware Password Recovery Kit 6.5
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 14:16:49 +0100
Lines: 11
Message-ID: <ch4i3u$ctl$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>
References: <od6Zc.1814$ay.280969@twister.southeast.rr.com>
<ch45ui$h5n$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
<vJjZc.2902$ay.338893@twister.southeast.rr.com>
<ch4hfr$q9v$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>
Reply-To: "Lloyd Jones" <@yahoo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.78.180.26
X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1094044606 13237 81.78.180.26 (1 Sep 2004
13:16:46 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Sep 2004 13:16:46 GMT
X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180


I'll give you the link in a bit pal, I'm busy at the mo.

Or email me at my temp address.

Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com

I'll mail you off my persoanl address then.

LJ


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Anyone with half a fucking clue about headers can tell these messages are
all from YOU Lloyd. care to try again with that story you just tried to sell
me?

You can't Bull shit a Bull Shiter eh...

After I made a common ground with you as well.

LJ

"Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2qratoF131koqU1@uni-berlin.de...
It's all out there on Google for the world to see, and evaluate for
themselves. I don't particularly care whether anyone thinks I made direct
posts to the groups you listed or not. I just pointed out the error in your
assumptions. It was you, who put up a ridiculous denial when I showed
accurate research on your post history in contrast to your own lackluster
fact-checking, which evidently did no more than link my fake reply address
and a newsgroup title, disregarding all other indications of origin and
circumstances. If I wanted to skew my results using your logic, then I would
have dispensed with the second list of groups, and instead claimed that you
also visited the 15 other newsgroups that your posts appeared in, ignoring
the obvious fact that they were the result of crossposted replies, not
participation in those groups directly. Frankly Lloyd, when you first posted
that list of groups, it seemed to me that you were trying to infer something
about my posting habits, or somehow intimidate me with your "masterful"
search skills, so that's why I replied with similar but *accurate* content,
to show you how it's really done. I replied with that info *before* getting
your "handshake" message, so perhaps I mistook the tone and intent of your
first post. Regardless of how I judged your intent, my research was
accurate, and you decided to flat deny the truth of it, which forced me to
post overwhelming evidence to the contrary to support my position. If you
don't like the fact that people can see all the groups you post in (let
alone match the headers up), I suggest that you learn how to alter your
headers with the X-NO-ARCHIVE statement so Google won't archive your posts.
Then you won't be leaving so many little breadcrumb trails all over Usenet.

Nice going Thor !!
"Thor" <man@arms.com> wrote in message
news:10kgvrsct6sb9ae@corp.supernews.com...

I may visit them groups.

I haven't got my hand on the bible here.

I don't have a personal problem with you either but some times tend to
rambling on.

Thor the fact of the matter is I done some research on you which is correct
you have visited most of the groups I listed in the last 3 months and you
felt you had to do some back.

That's fine, I would do the same thing.

You put effort in to researching me probably about 2 minuets if your as
smart as you think. It's a common feeling you experienced. Anger/Revenge
maybe Ego.

Whatever.

I still don't have a direct problem with you, I've seen you help allot of
people here so I bid you fare well.

LJ

Thor wrote:

If you
One of the old "contributors" to this NG was BB. He used X-No-Archive:
Yes all the time. He still left quite a trail in many NG's just from
others leaving his messages as quotes in their replies.

Virg Wall
--
A foolish consistency is the
hobgoblin of little minds,........
Ralph Waldo Emerson
(Microsoft programmer's manual.)

"VWWall" <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:zx%1d.952$0i5.499@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
Granted, it was still possible to see many of his old posts, but it was
indeed more difficult to trace down.

"Lloyd Jones" <Temporary_J66At_SPAM_KILLER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2qrehkF13f1qsU1@uni-berlin.de...
Yeah, I *KNOW* you do.

Never claimed you did.

I'm starting to have one with you.

Uh, huh. I suppose you can explain why it so happens that *every* post
authored by me, that shows up in the groups you list, is a *crosspost*
message? You think that I visited all those groups posted to them, and that
somehow, by some strange happenstance, they were always a crosspost message?
And not just that, but they also by some random coincidence, all happen to
contain alt.computer in the list of crossposted groups? Some really scary
stuff there Lloyd. I can't for the life of me explain why alt.computer would
be the one common group name that runs through each and every one of those
crossposted messages, in every one of those groups. Unless, perhaps, could
it be? I WAS REPLYING IN FREAKING ALT.COMPUTER THE WHOLE TIME JUST LIKE I
TOLD YOU?

Shit man, you really are thick headed, or just plain desperate to salvage an
ounce of dignity by sticking to this nonsense. I now have ZERO respect for
you.

BTW, do all the research you want on me. Have fun wading through the ~17000
posts of mine that are currently archived on Google. I've *visited* several
other groups besides alt.computer, and alt.os.windows-xp, but none of them
are among the ones you listed. Here are a few.

24hoursupport.helpdesk
the Asus motherboard group
the Abit motherboard group
rec.guns
alt.autos.ford
soc.culture.iraq
alt.2600.debate
soc.culture.china
alt.religion.islam
alt.politics.usa