I am thinking I want/need to upgrade from an older PC.
(and have a tax check coming)
I think I am hoping to keep using Win 2000 Pro (because I actually
own a legal copy) and the decent 8X AGP video card I have
(since I don't play too many games).

I like the AMP line of CPU's.
BUT thats not locked in stone

So, what speed/type CPU, dual core ?? and motherboard would allow
me to have a faster machine then this AMD XP 1900+ on an ASUS
motherboard and avoid this issue another 3-5 years?

What I haven't discovered yet is whether the win 2000 is my major
stumbling block here should I want to go to a much more up to date
setup.

Thanks!

Ok, I managed to refine my search terms and begun to see some info
that might help.

maybe the right motherboard and the AMD Athlon X2 5600+ or 6000+ will
work with win 2K and AGP video, this would scream compaired to this
AMD XP 1900+ ??

Remembering that everything I am currently doing does run and work
with my old box still.

Hp wrote:

Hp wrote:
There are only a few AGP motherboards listed on Newegg, for AM2 or
LGA775 (the current AMD and Intel desktop sockets). The boards
are cheap and the comments aren't entirely encouraging. Your choice of
course, if you want to go that way (AGP).

As for Win2K, you do have some planning to do. Win2K is on life support,
as far as some manufacturers are concerned. For example, I was interested
in one of the latest AGP cards the other day, at least until I found out
that the drivers are for WinXP only. So some hardware makers are cutting support
for Win2K. Also, a number of games recently, won't install or won't work
properly on Win2K (that is what I'm using). It takes some fiddling around,
and editing files with a hex editor. So the writing is on the wall, in
terms of the level of support for Win2K. You can probably easily continue
to use it, but you will also receive nagging reminders that its time has
passed. Finding out I couldn't upgrade my video card, sent that message
pretty strongly. WinXP will be available for purchase until June (or until
remaining stocks are depleted), and other than that, you're left with Vista.
(Or some other OS alternative, if you aren't interested in games.)

Of course the processor will be faster. But not every activity, allows
the extra speed of the CPU to be evident. When I compare my 3000MHz
current processor and system, to the way a system at 1MHz used to behave,
the behavior is not 3000 times faster. It would be a blur if that was the
case. Delays are added, so that you can remain in control of the screen,
and not have it scroll too fast. So the way the software is designed,
prevents your system from becoming too "snappy". One thing you should notice,
though, with dual cores, is the desktop will seem "smoother", with fewer
jerky moments or arbitrary delays.

Paul

In article <fsen0u$4ni$1@aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.com> scribeth
thus
But for most everything else its fine and dandy still.

Still run a 1.7 Ghz AMD here but with maxed out RAM and run some 100
plus engineering programmes including radio surveying ones which need a
lot of processor power but it still ticks fine and seems no slower than
the wife's Vister powered machine!..


Indeed.

--
Tony Sayer

On 26 Mar, 22:50, Hp <N...@nana.net> wrote:
Any faster computer, AMD or Intel - that includes anything you
mentioned - will be able to run windows 2000.
And just to check, I checked the Asus page, looked at one of their
latest model motherboards, and they had chipset drivers going back
before to win2k, to DOS.

My machines are quite old and have AGP. And I am not up on the latest
stuff. But if it is the case that newer motherboards do not have AGP
sockets. Or some problem of that nature, in that they don`t take your
card.
then you can get a PCI one.
Glad to hear you aren`t a gamer. I bought some cheap AGP graphics
cards for less than £10 on ebay. PCI wouldn`t cost a fortune. I would
guess a similar price.

I don`t know much about the latest machines, but last time I checked,
AMD had the Athlon X2 and intel had the Core 2 Duo. Some Athlon 64 X2
processors had very fast ratings e.g. Athlon 64 X2 6000+. Not sure
if core 2 duo processors beat them all. Look for core 2 duo Vs Athlon
X2
I know that AMD were ahead, but then the core duo or core 2 duo came
out, and kicked its ass. But then maybe the rating went way up (like
up to 6000) on the Athlon 64 X2, to fight back. I don:t really follow
it much..

15 years ago I used to get magazines, that was a great way to keep up
to date.
But magazines just screw you.. With internet access you realised they
were screwing you. Since then one method I found was useful was to
go into a BIG computer store and note down all the models they are
selling, so you get a good idea of what is on the market. Then google
around to learn about how they rate against each other in terms of
speed.

Forget pentium "dual core". Forget Pentium. What happened was, Intel
P4 were competing with AMD Athlon XP. P4 Northwood 2.8Ghz was
fine..
Then I think P4 came up with the prescott 3GHz, and they ran very
hot. AMD ruled for a while.. dual core may have appeared around that
time. AMD`s equivalent Athlon 64 X2 is better and is even put against
the core 2 duo .
That is very sketchy.. And prob very wrong in parts.. But if looking
at a new, faster computer, then know that the whole Pentium name is
old.
Core 2 duo is fast.. and not called Pentium.

On 31 Mar, 20:14, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"
<jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
regarding win2k.

the programs and devices you are currently using with win2k, you can
continue to use with your new machine.
(apart from the possible issue with the AGP graphics card and your new
machine)

you may want to get a newer version of windows anyway.. So you are
familiar with it.
And of course if you want new apps and devices.. you -may- have
trouble finding drivers.

But the motherboard you get will support it. And basic components like
hard drive , RAM, work without drivers. CD drive has a firmware driver
but that is not windows related. Graphics card - asusming it matches
a slot, prob can use generic windows drivers. (my cheap ones
certainly can).