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- Posted by Alan on November 28th, 2003
Many thanks Thor, it worked. Whilst here can I ask if I can change my
original HD from FAT 32 to NTFS and if so how? I would also be interested
in your opinions and preference on these two systems.
Regards
Alan
UK
- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 28th, 2003
"Alan" <a.v.l@REMOVEMEbtinternet.com> wrote in
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NTFS uses smaller cluster sizes than FAT32, so it wastes less space. It
also allows you to set file and folder access permissions.
The only advantage FAT32 provides is backward compatibility. If you have
to boot with a 98 startup disk, it won't see your NTFS partitions, but it
will see and be able to access FAT32 partitions.
To convert from FAT32 to NTFS from Windows (assuming windows NT/2000/XP),
it is a one way conversion (you can't convert back without losing all the
data), you can type:
convert x: /fs:NTFS /v
which will convert drive X to NTFS, /v is optional and just gives
information about what it is doing.
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- Posted by Thor on November 28th, 2003
It's right there in your windows help. :-)
To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt
1.. Open Command Prompt.
2.. In the command prompt window, type
convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs
For example, typing convert D: /fs:ntfs would format drive D: with the
ntfs format.
Notes
a.. To open command prompt, click Start, point to Programs, point to
Accessories, and then click Command Prompt.
b.. You can convert FAT or FAT32 volumes to NTFS with this command.
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- Posted by Thor on November 28th, 2003
Sorry, I forgot to address your other question in that earlier reply.
FAT32 has less overhead, and it's speedier on small volumes, compared to
NTFS, according to what I've read. It's also easier to get access to files
on a FAT32 volume when windows is crippled.
FAT32 is a far less efficient storage method with larger volumes compared to
NTFS. There is typically an incredible amount of file slack on the average
FAT32 volume on a large drive (something larger than 10GB) FAT32 is less
robust and less resistant to file system problems than NTFS. Minor file
system errors, lost allocation units, FSinfo misreporting, etc. are routine
occurrences with FAT32. NTFS rarely has corruption problems unless there is
a hardware issue, even with abnormal shutdowns, etc. FAT32 is less secure
than NTFS. You can easily encrypt, and compress data in windows with NTFS.
You also get a host of file and folder permission options with NTFS. It's a
must for running on a network where security is a concern.
The sole biggest downside to NTFS, to me, is the issue of quickly accessing
important data or working on files from a command-prompt environment if
windows is hosed to the point where it won't boot up. But there are tools
available to make it easier. NTFS-aware boot tools can allow you to get
around these issues for the most part. I run NTFS on my personal machine,
and it runs great. Very trouble-free. I recommend it.
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- Posted by Thor on November 28th, 2003
well, now. That was interesting. When I copy/pasted out of the help file, OE
went ahead and attached the little graphic files that were part of the HTML
help page, even though I post in plain text. Whoops. I'll have to watch that
next time.
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- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 28th, 2003
"Thor" <man@arms.com> wrote in news:vsdg69qeampk58@corp.supernews.com:
It came through as plain text on my end...
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- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 28th, 2003
"Thor" <man@arms.com> wrote in news:vsdg0ultl4ql9f@corp.supernews.com:
My mentality is this:
FAT32 is easier to fix should the FS get destroyed somehow, while NTFS
takes a bit more work to get at the data. However, how often has anyone
seen an NTFS volume require fixing? Aside from the OS itself dying, I've
never seen any reason I couldn't access an NTFS drive short of a failure of
the disk itself or the controller/cable.
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- Posted by V W Wall on November 28th, 2003
Thor wrote:
..gif
files as attachments. (shortcutCold.gif and note.gif).
They were down at the bottom, after all the quoted text, on Netscape 4.80.
Perhaps DeMoN's newsreader stripped them.
Virg Wall
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- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 28th, 2003
V W Wall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote in
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Xnews normally saves them to a default location and I have it set to auto-
open image files, but they just aren't there... I dunno why
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- Posted by Alan on November 28th, 2003
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Thanks for all the help, I have successfully install my second HD which is
working fine. At present I have it on NTFS and my original HD on FAT32 and
may keep this configuration for a while to observe the differences. Thanks
to you all.
Regards
Alan
UK
- Posted by Thor on November 28th, 2003
yeah, it was plain text on my end too, but also had a couple of picture
attachments that were little shortcut arrows from the HTML help formatting.
OE decided to attach those as well. I saw them on my post when it showed up
on my news server. They may have been stripped off automatically on your
end.
...
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- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 29th, 2003
Trent© <trentsauder@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Have you been hitting the crack pipe? It is near impossible to lose data
off an NTFS drive unless something becomes physically defective.
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- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 29th, 2003
Trent© <trentsauder@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Really? So a 9x boot disk with NTFSDOS is impossible?
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- Posted by Michael-NC on November 29th, 2003
Alan, disregard any and all information from Trent. He is simply a troll who
enjoys passing on misinformation. His reputation on this board is well known
by all. He's regarded as scum.
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- Posted by DeMoN LaG on November 29th, 2003
Trent© <trentsauder@hotmail.com> wrote in
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.... Read the data you need? I fail to see how a destroyed operating
system in either case (FAT32 or NTFS) changes much. If you want to
reinstall the OS, either way it won't wipe other data on the drive. Do you
have a point this time?
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- Posted by Plato on November 30th, 2003
Thor wrote:
'cause you/re too busy posting in html [g]
- Posted by V W Wall on November 30th, 2003
Plato wrote:
Don't look a .gif horse in the mouth! ;-O
Virg Wall
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- Posted by Thor on November 30th, 2003
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smartass. ;-)