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Is There Graphics R.A.M?
Posted by Harry on March 12th, 2007


Hello,

I just had my very, slow computer upgraded with
"life-time guarantee" memory, and it helped a lot, but the
larger graphics, i make on a particular art program, still
wont get through the saving stage: they just turn off the art
program, leaving me sitting there starring in shock at my
desktop, of course i lose, not minutes, but hours of work.

The C.P.U. runs at100% when trying to save the work,
however the C.P.U. is new, as is the entire computer, and i
would rather find another way such as a graphics card, now
that the memory problem might possibly be solved. I donot
mind waiting for the work. Losing it altogether is another
story!!!!! So what i want to do, if possible, is to now
upgrade my graphics card.

Can i put in the most powerful graphics card (and what is
"the most powerful graphics card"), and would the new
memory i have work, or do i need special, graphics
memory for this super, deluxe graphics card i hope to have
installed?

I only paid $500.00 for this computer at
WalMart, but never used it, so i would rather spend a few
hundred dollars on it to work with my one heavy- duty, art
program, than go out and pay $4,000.00 for a computer
with a lot junk-to-me in it that i donot need nor will ever
use.

Norton is a great program, however i feel itis massive and
helping to cause the problem, and that is why i thought
more R.A.M. was the answer. I willnot take the time here
and now to go into it, however i know there is nothing
wrong with the art program, nor the computers.
Thank you.

Posted by philo on March 12th, 2007





The C.P.U. runs at100% when trying to save the work,
however the C.P.U. is new, as is the entire computer, and i
would rather find another way such as a graphics card, now
that the memory problem might possibly be solved. I donot
mind waiting for the work. Losing it altogether is another
story!!!!! So what i want to do, if possible, is to now
upgrade my graphics card.

Can i put in the most powerful graphics card (and what is
"the most powerful graphics card"), and would the new
memory i have work, or do i need special, graphics
memory for this super, deluxe graphics card i hope to have
installed?

I only paid $500.00 for this computer at
WalMart, but never used it, so i would rather spend a few
hundred dollars on it to work with my one heavy- duty, art
program, than go out and pay $4,000.00 for a computer
with a lot junk-to-me in it that i donot need nor will ever
use.

Norton is a great program, however i feel itis massive and
helping to cause the problem, and that is why i thought
more R.A.M. was the answer. I willnot take the time here
and now to go into it, however i know there is nothing
wrong with the art program, nor the computers.
Thank you.



First off Norton is *not* a great program...
first thing to do is shut it down and see if your application works then.

Also...it would be helpful to know exactly how much RAM you have...
& the speed of your CPU.

If you are not playing games on your machine...though you need a decent
graphics card...
one with 128 megs of built-in RAM should be sufficient


Posted by Frosty on March 12th, 2007


On 12 Mar 2007 10:28:29 -0700 in 24hoursupport.helpdesk "Harry"
<paminifarm3@netscape.net>, intended to write something intelligible,
but instead wrote :

Could you be a little more vague?


Posted by Whiskers on March 12th, 2007


On 2007-03-12, Harry <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote:
snip

Stop there! Try to work out what is really going wrong, before you throw
any more money at that computer.

If you could tell us what sort of CPU you have, how much RAM, how much hard
disc space is available for files, what operating system you have, and
which program is misbehaving for you, then someone might have some useful
advice for you. Given what you've told us so far, we'd be guessing.

Even a cheap slow computer should not just lose stuff when you try to save
a file; that is /seriously/ 'wrong'. Do you see any error messages?

Assuming that there are no hardware faults, I'd suspect the 'art program'
as being the source of the problem.

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

Posted by Michael Fierro on March 12th, 2007


On Monday 12 March 2007 11:28 am, Harry ranted on thusly:

First of all, I strongly recommend that you don't go hours without saving
what you are working on. Save frequently, or at least every half-hour or
so.

As to your larger question: You probably don't need more graphics memory,
but more system RAM. Depending on the kind of artwork you're working on, of
course. If you're doing 2D stuff, then beefing up your video RAM isn't
going to help much. Beefing up system RAM will.

How much RAM do you have installed in your system? And are you doing 2D or
3D graphics?

--
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http://apt-get.biffster.org Y!: miguelito_fierro AIM: mfierro1
--
"You're not as dumb as you look. Or sound. Or our best testing
indicates." --C.M. Burns, to Homer

Posted by Harry on March 12th, 2007


On Mar 12, 3:42 pm, Michael Fierro <biffs...@NOSPAM-REALLYgmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,

Everything is working fine. The problem is the huge files are being
lost.
I need to find what can handle huge files. I thought it was ram, but i
guess i was wrong. Now i need to know if you need special kind of
ram for special kind of graphic's card . . . thatis all . . .
Thank you.

Truly


Posted by philo on March 12th, 2007



<snip>
No everything is NOT working fine if you are losing your files!




The graphics card has it's own RAM...though on some systems...system RAM can
be dedicated to video.

Since you are working on large files you will need quite a fast CPU and lots
of RAM


If you are using an application such as PhotoshopCS2 a dual core CPU with
2 gigs of ram
and at least a 128 meg video card is not a bad idea (though a 3ghz cpu and 1
gig of RAM should be enough to run it)



Posted by WhzzKdd on March 12th, 2007



"Harry" <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1173740361.549722.280080@n33g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
Did you read ANYTHING in the replies to your post? It is NOT the graphics
card memory that is causing your problem. The graphics card does not have
ANYTHING to do with saving your data file.

Post back here with the answer to the questions that others have asked,
plus: what is your computer? what is your processor? what is your graphics
program? what is the amount of system RAM in hyour computer? how much free
hard drive space do you have? have you tried disabling Norton's crapware
then saving? (Norton scans EVERYTHING you write to your hard drive)




Posted by WhzzKdd on March 12th, 2007



"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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depending on whether I'm at home or at the office) and it definately works
better since I added the extra RAM. Of course, if I have AI or other big
programs running, I really wish I had more <g>





Posted by philo on March 12th, 2007




I built a dual core machine for my GF and it runs CS2 very well...
also built a budget machine for a friend of mine a single core p-4 with a
gig of RAM...
and though slow on rendering large files...does not crash!

I'm sure that the OP is hindered by Norton too...but since he has not
listened to any of the advice he's
gotten I guess he'll end up with a dead system !



Posted by WhzzKdd on March 12th, 2007


"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Posted by Gary on March 13th, 2007


Everything can't be fine if your files are lost. You still haven't
answered the basic questions here, so let me ask again and you can just
respond. Someone will try to help.

1. What operating system do you have running?
2. What graphics program are you having trouble with?
3. How much total ram do you have that shows in the Control Panel\System?
4. How large is the hard drive and how much free space do you have?
5. How do you have the page file set?
6. What processor do you have and what is the clock speed?


Posted by Harry on March 13th, 2007


On Mar 12, 8:38 pm, Gary <danah...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
Hello,

Thank you everyone for your help.
There is so much running in the background of these newer
computers, i will just give up and stay with the old, blurry computer.
I just noticed a lot of stuff is missing off the one art program of
which
iam having trouble. On the old computer, Win 98, everything is still
there. I just have to make up my mind to keep one computer for my art
and others for the Internet. Work i do on the built in Art Programs on
the
newer computers will have to be exported to Mr. Oldie Goldie - what a
mess . . .

Truly


Posted by me on March 13th, 2007



"Harry" <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1173804388.594384.32490@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
Then why not disable the stuff you don't need to run in the background? And
disable Norton while you are working on/saving your artwork. Better
still,just ditch Norton and get one of the free AV progs like AVGfree which
won't suck the life out of your PC.





Posted by Gary on March 14th, 2007




Are you saying here that you tried to copy your graphics program from an
old computer to a new computer? You did not actually 'install' the
software on the new computer? No, it will never work doing this. You
must install the software using the installation disk.