Hi, one of my friends says he is going to learn Visual Basic. Not wanting to
sound stupid, I just replied, "Good Choice". What is Visual Basic and what
does it do? Is it any good, Worth Learning? Thanks for any help.

It's a scripting language created by Microsoft. Sort of akin to what
JavaScript does.



"Paul" <Spam.me@Spam.com> wrote in message
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VB is a programming language and set of tools for software development.
(Strictly speaking it's not a language, but a Microsoft implementation of
the BASIC programming language.) It's popular because of it's relative ease
of use and learning, large set of built in controls and capabilities, and
large 3rd party market for add in tools.

The other post confuses VB and VB Script. VB Script is a scripting tool for
web development. It is based on the VB language and is similar to Java
Script in purpose. The new Visual Basic.Net blurs the distinction somewhat
as it supports both general programming and web development using the Net
framework.
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"Paul" <Spam.me@Spam.com> wrote in message
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I am relatively new to programming although I like to think I am clued up.
How hard is VB.NET to learn,how long should it take and is this the best of
all VB's to learn??? If you all had a choice of programs to learn, what
would you start on and why?


"GTS" <x@y.com> wrote in message news:FPItc.81$LS6.5@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

Yes, you are quite right, thanks for setting the record straight on that. I
just plain forgot about VB, versus VB script.

"Paul" <Spam.me@Spam.com> wrote in
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You should be learning Visual C# .NET or Visual C++ .NET. Visual Basic
..NET is locked in on the .NET Framework and Managed Code.

Duane

Thor wrote:

http://www.karenware.com/powertools/runtimes.asp

for a good description and for the run-time routines needed.

Virg Wall
--
A foolish consistency is the
hobgoblin of little minds,........
Ralph Waldo Emerson
(Microsoft programmer's manual.)

(Personally I prefer C# to VB.NET but they're both .NET tools.)

"GTS" <x@y.com> wrote in news:OQOtc.1634$hB2.939@nwrdny03.gnilink.net:

Sorry on this one, but they are not locked into the .NET Framework and
either one of the solutions can produce Unmanaged Code. C# .NET is more
geared towards the .Net solution and the .Net Framework. C++ .NET can use
the .Net Framework as well. However with C++ .NET, one can create
complete applications/programs using Unmanaged Code (not needing the .Net
Framework) at all.

VB.Net is totally Managed Code and must use the .Net Framework.

Hell, the company is not slamming this .Net training down my throat for
nothing.

Doing the company training and studying for the MCSD .Net certification,
I know more about .Net than I ever wanted to know about it to this point.


Duane

That depends on your goals and interests and on what platforms you want to
address. If you want to learn some programming relatively quickly for a
hobby or general interest, then VB.NET is probably a good choice. It's
relatively easy to learn and will replace VB 6 (the last pre .NET version)
over the next few years. It can be used for both local and Web related
development (with Microsoft Web servers). It is substantially limited to
the Windows platform, though in theory other platforms could support the
Common Language Runtime embodied in the .NET framework. There is also
starting to be some demand for .NET skills in the job market. Note that C#
is a C based .NET language that can be used with the .NET framework, and is
another possibility, though you might find it a bit more difficult. How
long is also a difficult question. To become a versatile and skilled
programmer maybe 3 to 5 years. To be able to write a few simple programs
for personal use much less.

If you are looking toward developing professional skills, I would recommend
getting some exposure to C++. It's more difficult to learn but forces one
to develop deeper skills and system knowledge and is transferable to
non-Microsoft platforms.

The important core skills in programming are not specific to a particular
language and you'll acquire certain basic skills with whatever you choose.
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"Paul" <Spam.me@Spam.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. I stand corrected. I do recall, as I see your comment, that
C++.NET can create Unmanaged Code. I didn't think that was true of C#
though. Are you sure on that?

it sucks!
The only BASIC you should learn
is Commodore64 BASIC not Microsoft's Visual Basic.
Perhaps you should try TRS-80, or VIC-20 BASIC as well.

"GTS" <x@y.com> wrote in newspPtc.1120$LS6.551@nwrdny01.gnilink.net:

For some reason, C# .Net and it being able to produce Unmanaged Code
stands out in my mind. I'll have to verify this again. But that will be
after the holiday weekend when I return to work.

Duane

pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM (PCportinc) wrote in
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And what is your definition of VB 6 sucks? What is it that you think VB 6
cannot do? I been using it for awhile and it has done everything I have
asked it to do from making COM++ dlls and other dlls used in OPPs
programming used in N-tier applications, along with ActiveX controls for
the UI and used it for FAT client applications.

VB 6 holds its own as a viable programming language.

Duane

On 29 May 2004 02:13:15 GMT, pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM (PCportinc) wrote:

A lot of other people in the world don't agree with you.

Derek

derek / nul wrote:
How about Tiny Basic?

wow! have you ever tried moving a balloon sprite in vb from bottom to top of
screen?
how about poking and peeking?
no, you havent, because you dont even know what I was talking about as you
werent born when I used the C64.

pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM (PCportinc) wrote in
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Is that right? You can hand me one of your Pampers so that I can change
you. I started in the field in 1971 and started programming in 1972. I
was into providing program business solutions and not Mickey Mousing it.

Duane

LOL.

pcportinc@aol.combatSPAM (PCportinc) wrote in
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I see you're no more than an old troll that needs a Pamper, bottle and
possibly several sedatives in the bottle. You can play with your balloons
and that old rattle you have had for the last 25 years or so on your own
time - not mine. In the mean time, I'll use VB, C# and C++ and put the
$$$$ in my pockets. <g>

Duane