- What Have I Done Wrong?
- Posted by Thom on July 30th, 2007
I recently purchased a Kyocera KR1 router and Merlin Broadband card
from Sprint. I have three computers in my home 2 desktops and a
laptop. I have connected all three to the KR1 by wired ethernet
connections. All three are running XP Home SP2. I have set them all to
shared access via the lan. I can communicate with the KR1 from any of
them. I can see the shared drives from any of them. I can only access
the Internet from the .101 node (my desk top) the other desktop and
the laptop tell me page cannot be displayed no matter what URL I
enter. The laptop is my wife's and she is not happy. Can somebody help
me before she kills me? 8>(
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- Posted by Mr. Arnold on July 30th, 2007
"Thom" <thom_h_97@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What IP(s) do the machines have when you enter IPconfig /all at the Command
Prompt for each machine?
- Posted by Rôgêr on July 30th, 2007
Thom wrote:
I'm having a little trouble grokking your setup. Normally, it's lined up
like "in from the ISP" into the modem, then into the router, then to the
computers. Sounds like you're trying to do internet connection sharing
and use a router too. Not a good idea. Or at least, not the logical way
to do it.
- Posted by Ingeborg on July 30th, 2007
Thom wrote:
Did you give the computers a fixed IP address? In that case you probably
forgot to put in the right 'Default gateway' and 'DNS' (which should both
be the IP address of the KR1, I think)
- Posted by Thom on July 30th, 2007
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:55:27 GMT, "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com>
wrote:
Ok. I'm going to work with just the two desktops for right now. IP
address on the .100 machine (my base box) is 192.168.0.1 which is the
router's default IP address.
on the .101 box it is 169.254.177.18 which is Sprints ISP address.
when I tried to do a refresh, on the second box, with ipconfig it told
me it could not contact the DHCP server and could not complete the
refresh. The address for the DHCP server is nulls (blank) in the
IPCONFIG printout. Shouldn't the IP address and DHCP address be the
same as the base machines setting, which is the router's masked
addresses, (192.168.0.1)?
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- Posted by Vanguard on July 30th, 2007
"Thom" wrote in message
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Presumably you want to use the DHCP server provided in your router.
Configure the TCP/IP settings on all your intranet hosts to use dynamic
addressing. They will then get their IP address from the router's DHCP
address. With your hosts connected to the router, they aren't to
connect to your ISP's DHCP server but instead use your router's DHCP
server.
Control Panel -> Network Connections
Right-click on LAN, select Properties
Under TCP/IP properties, select "Obtain IP address automatically"
That will have your host use whatever DHCP server is available on your
intranet and that is the router's DHCP server. If you want to use
static IP addresses, that requires more work but it is likely that
dynamic IP addresses is what you want to use.
- Posted by Slacker on July 30th, 2007
"Thom" <thom_h_97@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Take a look at
http://www.ezlan.net/index.html
Info on most setup and configuration problems can be found here.
- Posted by DearOldDad on July 30th, 2007
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:26:07 -0500, "Vanguard"
<vanguard.x@comcast.net> wrote:
that's exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you.
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- Posted by Thom on July 30th, 2007
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:26:07 -0500, "Vanguard"
<vanguard.x@comcast.net> wrote:
That's exactly what I wanted to know! thank you.
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- Posted by Mr. Arnold on July 30th, 2007
"Thom" <thom_h_97@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's the router's gateway IP address.
That's NOT a Sprint IP address. The 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP is a local IP address
assigned by the O/S to a NIC, when the O/S couldn't get a DHCP IP from the
DHCP server on the LAN which would be your router. The 169 IP will allow the
computer to access other computers on the LAN (computers attached to the
router) or Local Area Network.
The 169 IP will not allow the computer to access the WAN/Internet Wide Area
Network nor will the IP allow the computer to access the router's device IP
at 192.168.0.1 to access the router's admin screens via a browser, since the
computer is not using an IP on the router issued by the DHCP server on the
router.
The 169 IP is a sign of trouble, most likely due to some kind of
mis-configuration of some sort.
That's because there is some kind of mis-configuration between the NIC and
the router and it can't do it.
The IP is going to be a IP in the router's DHCP server range, and it's going
to have a gateway IP that's pointing back to the router's device IP. The
computer that can connect to the Internet successfully has the first good
DHCP IP that was issued to the machine from the DHCP server on the router
and is why it can connect while the others cannot connect to the Internet.
I suggest you get on the phone with the makers of the router and the NIC
(Network Interface Card) and let them help you discover what is the
mis-configuration of either device that's preventing the computer from
getting a DHCP IP from the router's DHCP server.
- Posted by Mr. Arnold on July 30th, 2007
"Thom" <thom_h_97@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That should have been the default setting of the NIC out of the box unless
you went to the NIC and configured it to NOT obtain a DHCP IP from the
router's DHCP server automatically. If you didn't do that, then the problem
is elsewhere due to some kind of mis-configuration.
- Posted by Vanguard on July 31st, 2007
"Mr. Arnold" wrote in message
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Could be the user was duped by his ISP into running some diagnostic and
setup software that his ISP claimed was required for his Internet setup.
NEVER install or use the ISP's setup software. The provisioning of the
cable modem can be done over the telephone with their tech rep (although
you might have to push beyond the boob that first answers and can only
read from their KB scripts).
- Posted by wisdomkiller & pain on July 31st, 2007
Thom wrote:
which you have put into your desktop?
the broadband card, the other to the router. A switch would have done that
job as well.
You will have to
- enable internet connection sharing on the interface representing the
merlin card
- turn OFF the dhcp server in your router, turning it into a plain switch
- Posted by Thom on August 1st, 2007
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:10:00 +0200, wisdomkiller & pain
<nomail.20.eatallspam@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
No. The cat5 ethernet connects to the KR1 which has the broadband card
plugged into it. The card connects to Sprints' 1X/EVDO cell/broadband
network. The KR1 is both a wired LAN router with 4CAT5 ethernet ports,
and has a wireless WLAN router (802.11g) builtin as well. right now I
have the wireless turned off and am just using the wired ports.
Thank for the help. My connection is now working!!!
- Thom
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- Posted by DearOldDad on August 1st, 2007
I want to thank all those who responded with suggestions. I have the
connection working now. So She-who-must-be-obeyed is now happy.
- Thom
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:35:10 -0400, Thom <thom_h_97@yahoo.com> wrote:
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