For some reason I cannot log onto my old email server because you changed it
to outlook express and it is looking for a hotmail account, I have to
respond to an archived email URL test by end of day today and I NEED TO FIND
THIS ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fix it NOW

Mark LeClar blabbered in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

We just fixed it.

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EartLink Helpdesk

Mark LeClar wrote:
.... you are doing a very very bad job of communicating here, to a world
wide group of people who are conversing with each other.

.... and that 'old email' server's name would be..... what?

.... where 'you' that you think you are 'talking to' would be who?
EarthLink? You are certainly all mixed up. Do you think you are
talking to EL? You are not.

Now you think EL can change something to OE? Hmm. I wonder where you
got such a notion. Maybe you installed some kind of EL software, like
TotalAccess. Or something.

So, your OE is trying to access a hotmail account. You can configure
the accounts which are accessed in OE by using the function found at OE/
Tools/ Accounts/ Mail tab - select each account and use the Properties
button, then the General tab and uncheck [or check] the space called
"Include this account when receiving mail or synchronizing"

If you want a particular account included to get mail from, check that.
If you do not, uncheck it.

One can sense your desperation by the liberal use of caps and
exclamation marks, but shouting and raising your eyebrows here is not
going to get anyone's attention but amusement.

.... nor is your demanding tone going to cause people to want to help you
figure out what you have done wrong.

--
Mike Easter

Mark LeClar wrote:

Yes sir. We will get right on that. Please try again in 20 minutes.

Sincerely,
Earthlink.net

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-P.S. 25 demerits for excessive use of exclamation point

"EartLink helpdesk" wrote
This is bullshit. It cannot possibly be repaired until the shift
rotation 4 hours from now.

gangle blabbered in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

It was an autoresponder to keep the customer happy.

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Eartlink helpdesk

Mark LeClar wrote:

If OE is trying to get mail from some account unsuccessfully, it may not
be able to complete any other tasks because it is 'stuck' on a task
which cannot be completed.

Access the hotmail account as described and uncheck 'include this accoun
when receiving mail...' in the General tab of the Account Properties.


--
Mike Easter

On 2006-05-21, Mark LeClar <louieleclair@earthlink.net> wrote:
As you seem to be using an Earthlink internet connection to reach this
international public newsgroup, perhaps you would do better to address
your enquiry to Earthlink?

For your further enlightenment, 'Outlook Express' is a program running on
your own computer, and it is up to you to configure it to suit your own
requirements. It is not a 'server'. If you have a 'hotmail' account then
that is nothing to do with any ISP. You can probably access it via the
web interface if you can't work out how to configure Outlook Express to
access it.

If you have recently changed ISP and told your previous ISP to cancel your
account with them, then any email address you had from them is probably
also cancelled and unusable.

If you have an email message stored on your computer and you can read it,
then you can copy/paste any URL from it into your web browser. If the
message was stored on your previous ISP's email server but not on your own
computer, then you have probably lost it - although asking your previous
ISP, politely, if they could possibly rescue it for you, might just work
(but don't bank on it).

[posted and emailed]
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-- Whiskers
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Mark LeClar wrote:
What happened to please?

"Mark LeClar" <louieleclair@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:He%bg.388$Yu1.198@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net:

Here you go, Blinky. This one definitely belongs in your Hall of Shame.
LOL.

On 2006-05-21, Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
snip

Urk >:-[=]

..-----
| I apologize for this automatic reply to your email.
|
| To control spam, I now allow incoming messages only from senders I
| have approved beforehand.
|
| If you would like to be added to my list of approved senders, please
| fill out the short request form (see link below). Once I approve you,
| I will receive your original message in my inbox. You do not need to
| resend your message. I apologize for this one-time inconvenience.
|
| Click the link below to fill out the request:
'-----

For future reference, Earthlink now thinks that the surname that goes with
my nic, is 'Not-reqd'. They insisted I supply one, so that's what they
got.

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-- Whiskers
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Whiskers wrote:


That is the default message for the default configuration of the EL high
spamblocker challenge. However, it is not /necessary/ that the EL
client allow that default configuration to prevail. The person who
chooses to use the high spamblocker setting can also configure the
challenge system to be turned off, and manage their Suspect folder in
another and better way.

That is, the EL high spamblocker filters its known spam, and passes
whitelisteds, and puts the rest into Suspect. The default configuration
is to then challenge the Suspect -- which is a bad configuration,
because it challenges the spam bogus Froms and it challenges goodmail,
which is offensive as in this case and for other cases if goodmail which
the EL client would like to hear from.

That configuration also causes the EL output servers to become
blocklisted for abusive backscatter which interferes with EL mailusers'
mail delivery [including mine]. It is a bad configuration, but I cannot
convince EL to change the default to challenges off and I have a very
hard time convincing EL users who have their spamblocker on high to
change the challenges to off. Like Mark.

--
Mike Easter

On 2006-05-21, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
snip

They also use one of those 'bot traps' that relies on the legitimate human
user having, and being able to use, a 'graphical' web browser with 'images'
enabled. The 'challenge' from Earthlink fell into my Bayesian spam trap,
of course; I only spotted it by chance as I scanned the contents of my
'wastebasket' before deleting them all. I can see why some people aren't
too happy with Earthlink.

I've only previously encountered a 'challenge and response' approach to
spam, as a paid-for seperate service - and one which often doesn't get
renewed )

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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in
news:m927k3-llk.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net:

Since it is owned by the Church of Scientology, just be happy
your money is contributing to a worthy and noble cause.




--
thanatoid-Tip® #20
There are dark and scary tunnels where awful things happen to
you, and there are soft, warm and friendly tunnels which are as
close to paradise as you get on this shitball.

Whiskers wrote:
Ah, so! I have never actually seen an EL challenge. That is an
interesting thing to learn. All the more badness about the whole thing.

I guess I should have caused a challenge to be sent to myself so I could
see one to know what its configuration is.

In theory, EL's challenge system shouldn't be as bad as some, whose
entire 'filtering' is based on challenging everything which isn't
whitelisted. In theory, if EL's spam filter were 'perfect' then all of
the spam would be gone/filtered and only non-spam would be challenged.
In reality, EL's spam recognition is not that good, I hear.

The reason 'I hear' rather than know, is because I don't use EL's medium
spamfilter for anything. I either have the spamblocker turned off and
tag all of my own spam, or I have it on high which only passes
whitelisteds. So, I never see EL's leaky filtration, and so I only know
what I hear from other ELers.

--
Mike Easter

thanatoid wrote:

There are some myths and misconceptions about EL and Scientology -- and
there is plenty wrong with EL which has nothing to do with its
Scientology connections.

EL was founded by Sky Dayton in 1994 and merged with Mindspring in 2000.
It acquired PeoplePC in 2002. That makes it have a really lot of
subscribers.

Obviously Sky Dayton and his co-investors who are also Scientologists
must have a big stake in EL and influence in its management. EL tries
to distance itself from scientology and you get a lot of complicated
discussions about that in alt.religion.scientology

If you want to evaluate the EL ownership to year 2000 from EL's point of
view, go here http://www.earthlink.net/about/history/premerger/
EarthLink History

If you want to hear the EL Scientology "connection" read things like
this: http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/earthlink.htm That Earthlink is
some kind of front group for the CoS is another myth that I have never
seen proven other than by the usual guilt by association "proof" based
on the fact that Sky Dayton, the founder of Earthlink, is a
Scientologist.


--
Mike Easter

"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in
news:4470fc13$0$16233$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net:

I certainly hope you're not saying its connection with
Scientology should make anyone feel better about using the
service, especially if it's lousy to begin with, which appears
to be the case - from what I've read here.

THAT info does not make ME feel any better, that's for sure.

That is one group I am NEVER going into. I know enough, thanks.
I was accosted for about an hour by one of those brainwashed
freaks in 1971 and I still remember the experience.

You must be joking.

I am not saying that using Earthlink allows for subliminal
messages to be sent to your computer which eventually will make
you give all your money to the "C"oS. (Although come to think of
it, I wouldn't be surprised.)

Guilt by association is good enough for me.


--
thanatoid-Tip® #21 (a quote this time)
"Hell is other people."

On 2006-05-21, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
There was a 'wheelchair' icon on that page, but fortunately I can handle
visual interaction myself, so I don't know what measures are in place for
blind visitors.

The chief annoyance for me was that jumping through all the hoops of a
'challenge and response' arrangement took far longer than sending the
actual message. I'd have been considerably discommoded if I'd been using
a pay-per-minute dial-up connection. Perhaps I won't bother to try to help
someone with an Earthlink address next time?

Some people are so scared by all the press hype about "spam", that they
won't listen to reason. Punishing legitimate correspondents and making no
difference to any spammers, doesn't seem to matter to some people - and
the service providers selling 'challenge and response' services aren't
about to point out the defects in their own services.

I'm glad to hear that Earthlink do allow customers to set their own level
of intervention to some extent.

I've been favourably impressed by the server-side spam filters on my (UK)
Yahoo address; very little gets through, and if I'm expecting something on
that address that doesn't get to me when expected I can go to the web
interface to search through the 'bulk mail' folder before it gets purged.
'False positives' are very rare, though. No-one has ever complained to me
about legitimate messages being lost.

For the address I use in newsgroups, I rely on my own local filters, but
that address gets far less spam now than it used to a few years ago.

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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

On 2006-05-21, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote:
snip

I'm on the wrong continent to use any paid-for service offered by
Earthlink. I don't object to people with any philosophical, spiritual,
theological, or political, opinions, owning or operating commercial
enterprises. Nor do I assume that their customers share those opinions
)

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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

i didn't do anything with this ,Even I am busy with my studies.I am not
involve in all this

Thankyou