This is so weird! I was installing some new RAM, and while I had the case
open, I decided to install a new old stock 56K V.90 internal modem from
Newcom, which was designed for Windows 95 and 98. I use Windows XP Home and
have a Dell Dimension 4600i, btw. I want to have a regular dial-up modem as
a backup (I use cable ISP and have a 10/100 NIC card), and so I can fax via
my computer.

But when I went to install the modem card in one of my four available slots,
the modem would not fit! The slots where it would go are all about 3/8" away
from where the modem would rest once installed!! And yes, I was trying to
install it the correct way, not backwards or upside down. It can only go one
way. Plus, to make matters worse, the metallic modem part that would slide
into the slots on the mobo is about 2" longer than the slots on the mobo!!!

What is going on? You are allowed to have only an ethernet card or a dial-up
modem, but not both?? When I posted here a week ago, everyone said my
Windows 98 modem would work fine in my Dell with XP.

And when I went to the manufacturer's website:

http://www.newcominc.com

it said the domain name is for sale! I bought the modem new from Circuit
City in November 1998, on black Saturday.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

Julie P. wrote:
Sounds like you're trying to install an ISA modem into a PCI slot. The
ISA standard slot is a dinosaur now. If you decide to pick up a new PCI
modem, you can get a good cheap one under $20. But in your case, I'd
probably wait until it's needed.

Julie P. spewed forth...

You wouldn't be trying to install an ISA card in a PCI slot would you?

"Rôgêr" <abuse@your.isp.com> wrote in message
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Crap! Oh well, you learn something new everyday.

Thanks Roger and FML! I still want to install a modem so I can fax directly
from my computer though with a program like HotFax or WinFaxPro.

At least I got the RAM in ok. It was a pain to install until I realized you
have to push down very firmly and press the side snaps in a little hard to
get the sticks to lock in.

Julie

On Thu, 5 May 2005 00:02:35 -0400, "Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote:

http://www.kids-online.net/learn/cli...s/isamodem.jpg

You need a PCI modem.
http://www.mycompustore.com/images/3CP5610B.jpg

Here's one for $3.99
http://www.pcsurplusonline.com/viewprod.cfm?ID=3483

"Unk" <not@aol.com> wrote in message
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Yep, it's a ISA modem. Thanks for the pics and the link--that's a great
price! I might have some PCI modems lying around too, so I'll check my
inventory first.

On Thu, 5 May 2005 00:50:56 -0400, "Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote:

The shipping is probable twice the cost of that modem.

"Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:A_-dnSIzA8iaP-TfRVn-3g@comcast.com...

Hopefully you didn't short something out. The "pins" (foil pads) that
slide into the slot for ISA are much fatter than the ones for PCI, plus
the PCI has 2 different rows of pads. Sliding in an ISA (actually I
thought PCI was keyed to prevent this but maybe not) into a PCI slot
means the wider pads could touch more than one mating pin in the
connector and short them together.

If you are only interested in receiving faxes, you can open an eFax
account for free. That gives you a fax number (usually non-local) to
which senders can fax you. It then gets sent to you as an e-mail. If
you really need to send faxes, you could also do that online. However,
to send faxes usually means having to pay for it. There is
http://www.tpc.int/ which is basically a bunch of folks that run fax
servers all over the globe. You send your fax to them online (no analog
fax modem is required since you are using the Internet) and their fax
machine sends it out for you. The freebie fax service is obviously not
as reliable as the paid service, and you won't get any support with the
freebie fax service (other than maybe user groups).

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"Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Julie

Offered with the greatest respect:

Buy/borrow/obtain a copy of "Upgrading and Repairing PCs" by Scott Mueller
and read it from cover to cover.

It's not cheap, it's big, heavy and probably boring, but once read you'll be
on top of what can and can't fit in a PC, and why.

Cheers
Paul.

Sounds a bit like an old ISA modem, they don`t fit in PCI slots..J

"PC" <abuse@local.host> wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 May 2005 00:33:53 +1200, "PC" <abuse@local.host> wrote:

|>Julie
|>
|>Offered with the greatest respect:

|>Buy/borrow/obtain a copy of "Upgrading and Repairing PCs" by Scott Mueller
|>and read it from cover to cover.

A very good book, covers everything; I second PC's suggestion.

|>It's not cheap, it's big, heavy and probably boring, but once read you'll be
|>on top of what can and can't fit in a PC, and why.

Local libraries usually carry it.

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"Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote in news:rdKdnR5Oy4SvO-TfRVn-
3w@comcast.com:

Put that ISA modem on ebay. They are rare and in demand for those who want
to run Linux.

--
"No sports writers were harmed during the making of this post. And what I
want to know is - why not?"

"elaich" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:3dur3uFaaf7U4@individual.net...
Thanks for the tip! After doing a completed items search, it appears they
are selling for as much as $14.95 on eBay! Although I can;t technically list
it as a Linux modem since the packaging only says Windows 95.

<Vanguard> wrote in message news:LKednY3PPadPJeTfRVn-3A@comcast.com...
Oooh. Thanks for the warning. I did read both the Dell owner's manual and
the modem installation guide, and neither one warned me of this possibility!

Thanks. I do actually have an eFax account, but the last time someone tried
to send me a fax, I never got it.

If

Thanks for that link! I will check that site out, just to have in case of an
emergency. I also do have a fax machine too, which I can use, but it got
horrible reviews (Sharp UX-300). One reviewer even said it almost caused
fire in his house.

"PC" <abuse@local.host> wrote in message
news:Wooee.4025$Od6.549066@news.xtra.co.nz...
Ok. thanks! I do admit it's pretty exciting being able to upgrade your PC by
yourself. And components are so cheap nowadays, that it's very tempting to
buy new drives, cards, etc. and expand your computer's power. MicroCenter is
even selling fans for $7.99 this month. Maybe I will buy a few just do have
for an emergency. And maybe a power supply too.

My next goal is to find a DVD+/-RW drive that also writes CD-RW's and
install that (not sure if all DVD drives do that). Which means I will have
to pull out an existing drive to make room for it. Also I am looking for a
cheap floppy disk drive. And a wireless network card. Although the sales rep
at MicroCenter said I could use my existing non-wireless NIC card with my
wireless router, since he told me all wireless routers are backwards
compatible in case you want to have a wired network instead.

elaich wrote:
Huh? This reply is being written on a linux box and the connection to
the internet is via an ADSL line (with a router servering three
computers intemediate to the ADSL switch.) And the connection to a phone
line directly via modem is a built in modem coard for sending faxes.
FK

On Thu, 5 May 2005 11:48:22 -0400, "Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com>
wrote:

|>
|>"elaich" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:3dur3uFaaf7U4@individual.net...
|>> "Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote in news:rdKdnR5Oy4SvO-TfRVn-
|>> 3w@comcast.com:

|>>> Yep, it's a ISA modem. Thanks for the pics and the link--that's a great
|>>> price! I might have some PCI modems lying around too, so I'll check my
|>>> inventory first.

|>> Put that ISA modem on ebay. They are rare and in demand for those who want
|>> to run Linux.

|>Thanks for the tip! After doing a completed items search, it appears they
|>are selling for as much as $14.95 on eBay! Although I can;t technically list
|>it as a Linux modem since the packaging only says Windows 95.

A modem is a modem, almost all follow the Hayes protocol, the only
exception to this is a WinModem; a search for your modem doesn't
indicate that it is.

It should work in anything.... that it fits

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Thanks for checking Pennywise!

J.

elaich wrote with a thumbnail dipped in tar:

On dial up???? Only if you live beyond the black stump!
--
Parko
Registered Linux User #339345
Defenestrate Windows!

"Julie P." <jporpiglia@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Julie

<quote>
the sales rep at MicroCenter said
</quote>
Sigh; sales reps only have one purpose in life, to separate you from your
money. The worst are the ones that know enough to be dangerous. Do your
research first.

Don't get to much 'spare' stuff, computer gear is as perishable as the
cabbage at your green grocer. Yes spare CD/DVD blanks, a 2nd PC for
emergencies, but wholesale 'spares' are dead money. The improvement in
capacity of PC gear is still fairly large year on year. For example 2 years
ago one buy's a 20GB HD for 'emergencies' cost (NZ) $180, today I can go buy
a 80GB drive retail for less than $100. The 20GB is now worth about $50 even
though it's brand new. So If I'd left the $180 in the bank, got some
interest, I'd have nearly $200.
Lets assume the 2 year old 20GB in my PC now starts to show 'Smart' errors,
OK off to PC Parts supplies / MicroCenter (whoever) spend $100 for a HD 4
times the size of the original, and I have an extra $100 in the bank.
Makes sense to me.

DVD drives; most if not all DVD drives will write / read CD/CDR/CDRW. If you
want a DVD drive that covers all standards look at the LG GSA-4163B. It will
burn/read CD/CDR/CDRW/DVD+/-R/DVD+/-RW/DVD+R/RW Dual layer and DVD Ram.
According to Nero Info it doesn't do CD+G or Mt Rainier and of course DVD -R
dual layer is not yet generally available.
Got one here and find it works fine.

cheers
Paul.