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Enable Classic Startmenu WITH SMALL ICONS
Posted by R.J.T. Plomp on November 6th, 2005


Hi,

I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But I've
so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with SMALL ICONS.
Does anyone know how to do that?

Regards,

Roland



Posted by Wesley Vogel on November 6th, 2005


For the XP Start Menu.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
Value Name: Start_LargeMFUIcons
Value Type: REG_DWORD
Value Data: 0 or 1
0 = Enables smal icons on the Start Menu
1 = Enables large icons on the Start Menu

The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.

Windows XP uses the 9th binary value...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2
Value Name: Settings
Value Type: REG_BINARY
Value Data: (Mine)
hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,0 0,6b,00,00,00,1e,\00,00,00
,fe,ff,ff,ff,3c,02,00,00,22,03,00,00,5a,02,00,00

SINGLE OPTIONS:
08 = No Settings Enabled
09 = Auto Hide
00 = Show Clock
0A = Always on Top
0C = Show small icons in Start Menu

MULTIPLE OPTIONS:
01 = Auto Hide and Show Clock
02 = Always on Top and Show Clock
03 = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show Clock
04 = Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
0E = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu
0F = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
06 = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
07 = All Options Enabled
0B = Always on Top and Auto Hide
0D = Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
From...
Modifying the Start Menu
http://www.kixhelp.com/udfs/udf/82893.htm

I have no idea what combination of what does what. You can spend your time
experimenting.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:J4tbf.46276$d13.18671@fe06.usenetserver.com,
R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
> Hi,
>
> I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
> startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But
> I've so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with SMALL
> ICONS. Does anyone know how to do that?
>
> Regards,
>
> Roland


Posted by R.J.T. Plomp on November 7th, 2005


Hi,

That's from a KIX-script I assume. I've seen it, tried it, and it works as a
script, but so far I wasn't able to solve the puzzle that script does.
Something to work on I guess ;-)

I will continue, thx for the reply.

Roland

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OrvmZRx4FHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> For the XP Start Menu.
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
> Explorer\Advanced
> Value Name: Start_LargeMFUIcons
> Value Type: REG_DWORD
> Value Data: 0 or 1
> 0 = Enables smal icons on the Start Menu
> 1 = Enables large icons on the Start Menu
>
> The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
>
> Windows XP uses the 9th binary value...
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
> Explorer\StuckRects2
> Value Name: Settings
> Value Type: REG_BINARY
> Value Data: (Mine)
> hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,0 0,6b,00,00,00,1e,\00,00,00
> ,fe,ff,ff,ff,3c,02,00,00,22,03,00,00,5a,02,00,00
>
> SINGLE OPTIONS:
> 08 = No Settings Enabled
> 09 = Auto Hide
> 00 = Show Clock
> 0A = Always on Top
> 0C = Show small icons in Start Menu
>
> MULTIPLE OPTIONS:
> 01 = Auto Hide and Show Clock
> 02 = Always on Top and Show Clock
> 03 = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show Clock
> 04 = Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
> 0E = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu
> 0F = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
> 06 = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
> 07 = All Options Enabled
> 0B = Always on Top and Auto Hide
> 0D = Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
> From...
> Modifying the Start Menu
> http://www.kixhelp.com/udfs/udf/82893.htm
>
> I have no idea what combination of what does what. You can spend your
> time
> experimenting.
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:J4tbf.46276$d13.18671@fe06.usenetserver.com,
> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
>> startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But
>> I've so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with SMALL
>> ICONS. Does anyone know how to do that?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roland

>




Posted by Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\) on November 7th, 2005


RJ

Right click on the START button and select properties.. now click on the
CUSTOM button and check 'small icons'..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"R.J.T. Plomp" <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:J4tbf.46276$d13.18671@fe06.usenetserver.com.. .
> Hi,
>
> I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
> startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But
> I've so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with SMALL
> ICONS. Does anyone know how to do that?
>
> Regards,
>
> Roland
>
>



Posted by Wesley Vogel on November 8th, 2005


Roland,

MS, for some unknown reason, has basically hidden this info for the Classic
Start Menu.

Copy the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
key from a system that you already have set up the way you want.

Then you do not have to know which combination does what in
Start_LargeMFUIcons. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:saKbf.17779$6l3.14206@fe52.usenetserver.com,
R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
> Hi,
>
> That's from a KIX-script I assume. I've seen it, tried it, and it works
> as a script, but so far I wasn't able to solve the puzzle that script
> does. Something to work on I guess ;-)
>
> I will continue, thx for the reply.
>
> Roland
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:OrvmZRx4FHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> For the XP Start Menu.
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>> Explorer\Advanced
>> Value Name: Start_LargeMFUIcons
>> Value Type: REG_DWORD
>> Value Data: 0 or 1
>> 0 = Enables smal icons on the Start Menu
>> 1 = Enables large icons on the Start Menu
>>
>> The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
>>
>> Windows XP uses the 9th binary value...
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>> Explorer\StuckRects2
>> Value Name: Settings
>> Value Type: REG_BINARY
>> Value Data: (Mine)
>>

hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,0 0,6b,00,00,00,1e,\00,00,00
>> ,fe,ff,ff,ff,3c,02,00,00,22,03,00,00,5a,02,00,00
>>
>> SINGLE OPTIONS:
>> 08 = No Settings Enabled
>> 09 = Auto Hide
>> 00 = Show Clock
>> 0A = Always on Top
>> 0C = Show small icons in Start Menu
>>
>> MULTIPLE OPTIONS:
>> 01 = Auto Hide and Show Clock
>> 02 = Always on Top and Show Clock
>> 03 = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show Clock
>> 04 = Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
>> 0E = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu
>> 0F = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
>> 06 = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
>> 07 = All Options Enabled
>> 0B = Always on Top and Auto Hide
>> 0D = Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
>> From...
>> Modifying the Start Menu
>> http://www.kixhelp.com/udfs/udf/82893.htm
>>
>> I have no idea what combination of what does what. You can spend your
>> time
>> experimenting.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:J4tbf.46276$d13.18671@fe06.usenetserver.com,
>> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
>>> startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But
>>> I've so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with SMALL
>>> ICONS. Does anyone know how to do that?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Roland


Posted by R.J.T. Plomp on November 9th, 2005


But that path doesn't contain the StuckRects2 value.. which is also needed I
understand. So export Advanced and the StuckRects2 key?

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:O1%23lMjA5FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Roland,
>
> MS, for some unknown reason, has basically hidden this info for the
> Classic
> Start Menu.
>
> Copy the
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
> Explorer\Advanced
> key from a system that you already have set up the way you want.
>
> Then you do not have to know which combination does what in
> Start_LargeMFUIcons. ;-)
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:saKbf.17779$6l3.14206@fe52.usenetserver.com,
> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>> Hi,
>>
>> That's from a KIX-script I assume. I've seen it, tried it, and it works
>> as a script, but so far I wasn't able to solve the puzzle that script
>> does. Something to work on I guess ;-)
>>
>> I will continue, thx for the reply.
>>
>> Roland
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:OrvmZRx4FHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> For the XP Start Menu.
>>>
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>>> Explorer\Advanced
>>> Value Name: Start_LargeMFUIcons
>>> Value Type: REG_DWORD
>>> Value Data: 0 or 1
>>> 0 = Enables smal icons on the Start Menu
>>> 1 = Enables large icons on the Start Menu
>>>
>>> The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
>>>
>>> Windows XP uses the 9th binary value...
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>>> Explorer\StuckRects2
>>> Value Name: Settings
>>> Value Type: REG_BINARY
>>> Value Data: (Mine)
>>>

> hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,0 0,6b,00,00,00,1e,\00,00,00
>>> ,fe,ff,ff,ff,3c,02,00,00,22,03,00,00,5a,02,00,00
>>>
>>> SINGLE OPTIONS:
>>> 08 = No Settings Enabled
>>> 09 = Auto Hide
>>> 00 = Show Clock
>>> 0A = Always on Top
>>> 0C = Show small icons in Start Menu
>>>
>>> MULTIPLE OPTIONS:
>>> 01 = Auto Hide and Show Clock
>>> 02 = Always on Top and Show Clock
>>> 03 = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show Clock
>>> 04 = Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
>>> 0E = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu
>>> 0F = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
>>> 06 = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
>>> 07 = All Options Enabled
>>> 0B = Always on Top and Auto Hide
>>> 0D = Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
>>> From...
>>> Modifying the Start Menu
>>> http://www.kixhelp.com/udfs/udf/82893.htm
>>>
>>> I have no idea what combination of what does what. You can spend your
>>> time
>>> experimenting.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>> In news:J4tbf.46276$d13.18671@fe06.usenetserver.com,
>>> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
>>>> startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But
>>>> I've so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with
>>>> SMALL
>>>> ICONS. Does anyone know how to do that?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Roland

>




Posted by Wesley Vogel on November 10th, 2005


My mistake,

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

is what I meant.

But, sure, copy both keys.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:fGicf.3448$Oe2.1275@fe47.usenetserver.com,
R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
> But that path doesn't contain the StuckRects2 value.. which is also
> needed I understand. So export Advanced and the StuckRects2 key?
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:O1%23lMjA5FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Roland,
>>
>> MS, for some unknown reason, has basically hidden this info for the
>> Classic
>> Start Menu.
>>
>> Copy the
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>> Explorer\Advanced
>> key from a system that you already have set up the way you want.
>>
>> Then you do not have to know which combination does what in
>> Start_LargeMFUIcons. ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:saKbf.17779$6l3.14206@fe52.usenetserver.com,
>> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> That's from a KIX-script I assume. I've seen it, tried it, and it works
>>> as a script, but so far I wasn't able to solve the puzzle that script
>>> does. Something to work on I guess ;-)
>>>
>>> I will continue, thx for the reply.
>>>
>>> Roland
>>>
>>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OrvmZRx4FHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> For the XP Start Menu.
>>>>
>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>>>> Explorer\Advanced
>>>> Value Name: Start_LargeMFUIcons
>>>> Value Type: REG_DWORD
>>>> Value Data: 0 or 1
>>>> 0 = Enables smal icons on the Start Menu
>>>> 1 = Enables large icons on the Start Menu
>>>>
>>>> The Classic Start Menu is more complicated.
>>>>
>>>> Windows XP uses the 9th binary value...
>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>>>> Explorer\StuckRects2
>>>> Value Name: Settings
>>>> Value Type: REG_BINARY
>>>> Value Data: (Mine)
>>>>

>>

hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,02,00,00,00,03,00,00,0 0,6b,00,00,00,1e,\00,00,00
>>>> ,fe,ff,ff,ff,3c,02,00,00,22,03,00,00,5a,02,00,00
>>>>
>>>> SINGLE OPTIONS:
>>>> 08 = No Settings Enabled
>>>> 09 = Auto Hide
>>>> 00 = Show Clock
>>>> 0A = Always on Top
>>>> 0C = Show small icons in Start Menu
>>>>
>>>> MULTIPLE OPTIONS:
>>>> 01 = Auto Hide and Show Clock
>>>> 02 = Always on Top and Show Clock
>>>> 03 = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show Clock
>>>> 04 = Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
>>>> 0E = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu
>>>> 0F = Always on Top and Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
>>>> 06 = Always on Top and Show small icons in Start Menu and Show Clock
>>>> 07 = All Options Enabled
>>>> 0B = Always on Top and Auto Hide
>>>> 0D = Auto Hide and Show small icons in Start Menu
>>>> From...
>>>> Modifying the Start Menu
>>>> http://www.kixhelp.com/udfs/udf/82893.htm
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what combination of what does what. You can spend your
>>>> time
>>>> experimenting.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>
>>>> Wes
>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>> In news:J4tbf.46276$d13.18671@fe06.usenetserver.com,
>>>> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found the wat to add /modify the right registry key to get the
>>>>> startmenu to run in classic mode (for an unattended installation). But
>>>>> I've so far not found a way to make the classic startmenu run with
>>>>> SMALL
>>>>> ICONS. Does anyone know how to do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Roland



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