One can buy a commercial upgrade version of XP and upgrade from which
versions?

95? 98?

DSH

This is no such thing as a "commercial upgrade version"
of Windows XP. You must purchase a "Retail Upgrade"
if you wish to upgrade from Windows 98. Windows 95
is non-upgradeable to Windows XP.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

| One can buy a commercial upgrade version of XP and upgrade from which
| versions?
|
| 95? 98?
|
| DSH

Yes. Clean install from 95, upgrade install from 98.

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

D. Spencer Hines wrote:


98, 98SE, Me, 2000 (2000 only to upgrade to XP Professional, not Home). You
can also upgrade from XP Home to XP Professional).

You can't do an upgrade from Windows 95 to XP, but you *can* use a Windows
95 CD as proof of a previous qualifying version to do a clean installation
of XP with an Upgrade copy.

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D. Spencer Hines <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Upgrading from Previous Versions of Windows"
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...ng/matrix.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/matrix.mspx

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How does one use the Windows 95 CD to do that?

I have one in hand.

DSH

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Simply boot from the Windows XP CD (change the BIOS boot order if necessary
to accomplish this) and follow the prompts for a clean installation (delete
the existing partition by pressing "D" when prompted, then create a new
one).

When setup doesn't find a previous qualifying version installed, it will
prompt you to insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert theWindsws 95
CD, and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.


You can find detailed instructions here:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

or here http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm

or here http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm

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What I have is a Windows 95 disk which came with a Dell Computer I bought in
1997 -- well before all this latest authentication stuff began.

Will that work?

Will it work with an upgrade to Vista when it comes out?

The matrix several folks have posted URL's to says no can do from 95.

DSH

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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1. If its one of those "preconfigured" or "restore CD's" no. It has to
be an Install CD.
2. Vista isn't "available" and the requirements aren't set, so the
answer is no one knows yet.
3. That's correct, you have to do a "clean install" and allow it to
"sniff" the 95 install CD.

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Yes, it is an install DVD for Windows 95 from Dell, which I got in 1997.

I'm skeptical that this will work with a copy of Windows XP Pro Upgrade.

The matrix touted by several folks here seems to be saying one cannot use a
Win XP Upgrade to move from Win 95 to XP.

"You can't do an upgrade from Windows 95 to XP, but you *can* use a
Windows 95 CD as proof of a previous qualifying version to do a
clean installation of XP with an Upgrade copy."

Where can I find verification for that statement BY Microsoft on the web?

DSH

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
try here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...ng/matrix.mspx

You would need a "Microsoft Windows 95 CD" and not a
"install DVD for Windows 95 from Dell" in order to qualify
for using an upgrade version of Windows in the future. Your
Dell DVD would not be recognized as a qualifying product.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

| Yes, it is an install DVD for Windows 95 from Dell, which I got in 1997.
|
| I'm skeptical that this will work with a copy of Windows XP Pro Upgrade.
|
| The matrix touted by several folks here seems to be saying one cannot use a
| Win XP Upgrade to move from Win 95 to XP.
|
| "You can't do an upgrade from Windows 95 to XP, but you *can* use a
| Windows 95 CD as proof of a previous qualifying version to do a
| clean installation of XP with an Upgrade copy."
|
| Where can I find verification for that statement BY Microsoft on the web?
|
| DSH

D. Spencer Hines wrote:


If it's an installation CD, not a restore CD, yes.



There is never a definite answer to such a question. Microsoft never
preannounces things like this.

I'll venture a guess, though. No, it won't. I think its working with XP was
an accident, and Microsoft hadn't planned it that way.



You can not *upgrade* from 95, but you *can* use a 95 CD as qualifying media
when doing a clean installation with an XP Upgrade CD.

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


You won't find verification from Microsoft. As I said in another message in
this thread moments ago, I think its working was an accident.

The statement is correct. You may believe it or not, as you choose. Or try
it yourself to find out.

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In line

D. Spencer Hines wrote:



What matrix ? As per #3.
As per #3

Fair Enough.

That's clear now.

Thank you kindly.

DSH

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:


You're welcome. Glad to help.

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Although there is lot of discussion here about the license issue on Upgrade
requirements and think that is was covered one way or the other - But -

The first thing that needs to be considered is the hardware requirements for
XP to run.
If you are planning on putting XP on this 97 Dell - Windows 95 machine, I
believe that no matter how you obtain an XP license, it will not pass the
hardware requirements and it will not work. It might load, but it will not
function. Even if you purchased a New Full XP Retail Version.

If it is not on this 97 Dell - Windows 95 machine that you are installing
this on, and you are installing it on a newer machine, then technically by
Microsoft EULA agreement, you cannot use that version of Windows 95 to
legally install XP on a new machine. Therefore you will have to purchase a
New Retail version for this machine.

Hope this helps



"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thank you kindly.

But I have never considered installing XP, in any of its versions, on a 1997
Dell Windows 95 machine.

Cheers,

DSH

"Mike" <mike_ssd@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ken,
Dell, prior to the recovery partition/disk stuff which most [not absolutely
certain about Dell] computer manufacturers now give you; used to give you a
CD which functioned almost the same as a disk obtained from Microsoft.
There, of course, were some modifications such as Dell branding. When Mr.
Hines mentions a DVD obtained from Dell in 1997 with Windows 95 contained
thereon, I expect that it really is a CD.
Insofar as ambiguity in Microsoft EULAs, I don't think that it matters
whether it exists or not or which side it favors if it does exist. The
point: an individual civil suit against them could go on for many years
(them never ending appeals by both sides) with the only real money winners,
no matter which way the final decision goes, being your lawyers. You have to
have a big loss to recover and huge assets to even consider such a suit.
Whether Microsoft made a mistake or not when they allow upgrades from
Windows 95 to XP, they certainly should know that such is happening by now
and apparently have chosen not to block it. When that 95 disc is accepted
and you are accepted as having a valid operating system when you
activate/register XP with Microsoft and they then allow updating on a
regular basis, the legal system begins to tilt heavily towards the user.
That is only my opinion since I am not a lawyer.

--
Gene K