What is the BEST handheld mic for eng work ??

Audio Technica - ATM31A
Beyer - M58
Beyer - MCE58
EVI - RE50
EVI - 635A
Sennheiser - MD46
Shure - SM63
Shure VP64AL

Use will be for doing interviews at noisy trade shows and such.

Using with Marantz PMD670... So phantom power mic is a OK :-)

Thanks

Scott

If you're working in high noise environments like trade show floors, you'll
be better off with something in the super-cardioid range. If you have the
budget, you might want to take a look at the Sennheiser ME 66. It's an
excellent mid-price range on-location mic and can be used either hand held
or camera/boom mounted. It's a favorite of many TV news departments.


"Scott Sheppard" <lists@osxfaq.com> wrote in message
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EV-RE50 - you see it on every eng show (pretty much all
local news and all nat. news and all cable news). But don't
believe me - turn on the tv - what are the on-air news folks
holding?
It's dynamic - no batteries required, no batteries to fail.
It's shape defines the expected "look" for eng mikes.
The only choices are - grey (standard) or black (newer),
and regular or high-impedence (get the high).

crash

Scott Sheppard wrote:

While it's built like a tank and is a great choice for low noise situations,
the RE50 is an omnidirectional mic and will not perform nearly as well in
high noise environments such as trade show floors, as a cardioid or
super-cardiod mic. The tradeoffs are the necessity for batteries or phantom
power, durability, the necessity to "wig-wag" the mic back and forth between
interviewer and interviewee and a higher propensity for mic handling noise.
But the payoff is much higher signal to noise ratio, resulting in better
quality audio.

"crash" <searchandrecovery@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You make good points. I was concentrating on the "eng" part of the
"eng"/"tradeshow"
issues. That having been said...
I myself would still go with the ev-re50. One could argue that 1)small
tradeshows
aren't that loud (from my experience) or 2)the tradeshow background
noise makes
for a kinda cool, exciting ambiance/atmos. Also, on the newsgroup
rec.vid.production
there's a post about the directionality of the re50 in response to this
thread.
However, I think we could probably agreee that the best way to find
out would be
to actually test a couple of these mics out in the given environment and
then make
a decision. (It should be noted you didn't actually recommend a specific
mic).

Sincerely,
crash

jdcarswell wrote:

No matter what mic you use on a trade show floor, there will still likely be plenty of ambience. What's important is to ensure that there's as much separation between the interview audio and the background audio as is possible. A common ENG technique is to record 30 seconds of ambient sound prior to or after an interview, which can be used in post production to add continutity underneath voice overs, etc. One can also use this audio to increase the ambience level, if desired.

Conversely, if the ambience level on the recorded audio begins to compete with the dialogue, you have a real problem on your hands, as there's no satisfactory method to reduce the ambient audio without in some way compromising the sonic quality of the remaining audio signal.

My specific mic recommendation was stated in my first reply to this thread - Sennheiser ME 66. If one had the budget to acquire a selection of mics for a variety of situations, certainly the RE50 would be an excellent addition. But were I limited to a single mic, I would choose a hyper-cardioid.

The one thing we do seem to agree on is the importance of audio in video production. Far too often it is ignored completely or is at best regarded as an afterthought.
"crash" <searchandrecovery@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:40092CD4.6080204@yahoo.com...
You make good points. I was concentrating on the "eng" part of the "eng"/"tradeshow"
issues. That having been said...
I myself would still go with the ev-re50. One could argue that 1)small tradeshows
aren't that loud (from my experience) or 2)the tradeshow background noise makes
for a kinda cool, exciting ambiance/atmos. Also, on the newsgroup rec.vid.production
there's a post about the directionality of the re50 in response to this thread.
However, I think we could probably agreee that the best way to find out would be
to actually test a couple of these mics out in the given environment and then make
a decision. (It should be noted you didn't actually recommend a specific mic).

Sincerely,
crash

jdcarswell wrote:

While it's built like a tank and is a great choice for low noise situations,the RE50 is an omnidirectional mic and will not perform nearly as well inhigh noise environments such as trade show floors, as a cardioid orsuper-cardiod mic. The tradeoffs are the necessity for batteries or phantompower, durability, the necessity to "wig-wag" the mic back and forth betweeninterviewer and interviewee and a higher propensity for mic handling noise.But the payoff is much higher signal to noise ratio, resulting in betterquality audio."crash" <searchandrecovery@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:4006AB29.6010806@yahoo.com... EV-RE50 - you see it on every eng show (pretty much alllocal news and all nat. news and all cable news). But don'tbelieve me - turn on the tv - what are the on-air news folksholding? It's dynamic - no batteries required, no batteries to fail. It's shape defines the expected "look" for eng mikes. The only choices are - grey (standard) or black (newer),and regular or high-impedence (get the high).crashScott Sheppard wrote:What is the BEST handheld mic for eng work ??Audio Technica - ATM31ABeyer - M58Beyer - MCE58EVI - RE50EVI - 635ASennheiser - MD46Shure - SM63Shure VP64ALUse will be for doing interviews at noisy trade shows and such.Using with Marantz PMD670... So phantom power mic is a OK :-)ThanksScott