- Consensus editor for ACVHD?
- Posted by Richard Crowley on April 29th, 2008
I got an email from my VP (too many levels up in the
org chart to even see him from here :-) asking for a
recommendation for a amateur level (<$150) NLE
application for his new ACVHD camcorder (Sony
SR11).
I'm following the discussion here (and on the HV20
website) about HDV editing where I have the similar
question for myself.
Is there a consensus for a consumer ACVHD edit
application that I can tell him?
What would you say the consensus is here now for
HDV editing?
- Posted by Ken Maltby on April 30th, 2008
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote in message
news:67pjupF2p0pouU1@mid.individual.net...
I don't think one editing solution will ever settle out.
Luck; (and you will really need it)
Ken
P.S. I've always found that making such recommendations,
for a higher up, never ends well.
- Posted by David Ruether on April 30th, 2008
"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:GJednU9uMJ_RKorVnZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@giganews.com ...
That last could be the best bit of advice, but, the OP
could "take the bull by the horns" and recommend to
the VP that he return the inferior ACVHD camcorder
(inferior picture, hard to archive the material, and quite
hard to edit), and get the Canon HV30, which about
everyone agrees is quite excellent, and which uses the
superior tape-based HDV recording and archiving
system. For editing that, I compare here three editing
programs - www.donferrario.com/ruether/hdv-editing.htm,
two cheap ones, and one "good" one (but that one is
probably too expensive and complex). I suppose that
if you do proceed (and the VP does proceed with
ACVHD...), you could point out that the VP is likely
to need some serious computer hardware to make it
practical. Or, you could claim total lack of knowledge
on this subject, and "lie low" for a while...8^)
Um, I also wish you luck! ;-)
--David Ruether
- Posted by Richard Crowley on April 30th, 2008
"Richard Crowley" wrote ...
Here is what I told him...
Since AVCHD is so new, there aren't as many choices for
editing right now as there will be later in the life-cycle.
The major contenders appear to be...
Corel Ulead VideoStudio 11.5 Plus ($60 at Amazon)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...ctiveda8377-20
Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition ($90 at Amazon)
http://www.amazon.com/Vegas-Movie-St...9591948&sr=1-1
There are other minor players and some ingenious (but fiddly)
kludges and workarounds, but I would recommend one of those
two if you don't want to spend any more time on it than is
necessary.
You may have additional requirements (like end-to-end work-
flow through writing distribution Blu-Ray discs, etc.)
which might swing the choice to one or the other.(?)
- Posted by videoguys on April 30th, 2008
For AVCHD our top recommendation is Vegas. Either platium on the
consumer side or Vegas Pro 8 on the more professional level. Make sure
you have a powerful machine, at least dual core w/ 2 GB+ of RAM. We
recommend XP over Vista for now.
At NAB2008 Sony announced DVD Architect 5 with Blu-Ray support. Anyone
buying Vegas Pro 8 now will get this upgrade free as a download from
Sony when it ships.
We have Vegas Pro 8 on sale for $399.95. We include a bunch of
training from VASST to get you started. We also have a Blu-Ray bundle
that includes the Pioneer BDR-202 Blu-Ray burner. Check it out
http://www.videoguys.com/vegaspro8.html
Gary
- Posted by David Ruether on April 30th, 2008
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote in message news:67s86oF2ptvuqU1@mid.individual.net...
Ah, the, "Well, it depends..." answer...;-) Smart! ;-)
Maybe make sure this one doesn't recompress everything
at output (Platinum does, with HDV - but VS11+ and
VP-8 don't...).
Not gonna warn him 'bout the S - L - O - W processing
time for ACVHD timelines unless the computer is SUPER-
WHIZZ-BANG-FAST, huh? ;-)
That's it - keep things indefinite...! ;-)
Good luck! ;-)
--DR
- Posted by Ken Maltby on May 1st, 2008
"David Ruether" <druether@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4818f649$0$3379$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Magix "Movie Edit Pro 14 Plus" has a lot going for it, and
should be on your list. It has a number of new features
especially for AVCHD and includes a "full HD workflow",
import. edit, and burn HD video. (Of course you need a
really high power system, as several have mentioned.)
[ Unless the "Videoguys" can come up with a really good
deal on an ADS Tech "Pyro Kompressor HD" :
http://www.adstech.com/pyroav_com/default.asp ]
I have used MEP 14+ with SD AVC .mp4, but I have only
a few downloaded AVCHD clips that I've tried with it, they
seemed to be no problem for the program. I haven't done a
complete AVCHD project though, so there could be issues
that I just haven't encountered.
Luck;
Ken
- Posted by Richard Crowley on May 2nd, 2008
"David Ruether" wrote...
Few people in the know part of the universe are in a better
position to actually *DO* something about making CPUs
faster than he is. :-))
- Posted by David Ruether on May 2nd, 2008
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote in message news:67vausF2pd6eaU1@mid.individual.net...
Ah, then there is hope for his actually (without watching
the glaciers melt before the video is completed) successfully
outputting the (inferior-quality) ACVHD video...;-)
--DR