- force windows to use firewire device for sound input?
- Posted by tg on February 24th, 2007
I have a Canopus Twinpact DV capture device and also a Pinnacle 500-USB video capture device. They both work fine for capturing
video with audio but is there a way to make windows use these devices as audio recording devices only? ie: without the video? (kind
of like using it as a sound card).
Neither device appears as a sound device in Control Panel/Sounds and Audio devices but maybe there's a way to use them as such? If
so it might save me the cost of forking out for an M-Audio 410 or similar.
Thanks for any advice.
- Posted by Trev on February 24th, 2007
"tg" <tg@nospamevereverever.net> wrote in message
news:45e0d318$0$22124$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
- Posted by tg on February 25th, 2007
"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message news:SISdnYoYKbQtSn3YnZ2dnUVZ8smonZ2d@pipex.net...
I know that Trev, get a clue. I'm talking about recording the audio on the PC.
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"tg" <tg@nospamevereverever.net> wrote in message
news:45e0e312$0$28975$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
It's you who needs to find the clue, the firewire port is not a
capture port, it's purely a data / interface port (just like a USB
port), you would need some form of audio capture device to use your
IEEE1394 port - just like you need your Pinnacle video capture device
to use your USB port for video.
- Posted by tg on February 25th, 2007
":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message news:45e165c1$0$97223$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
yes but thats exactly the point in my original post. I already have the capture device in the form of a Canopus Twinpact (firewire)
and/or Pinnacle 500-USB. Both of these units capture audio as well as video and transfer the data to the PC. I was hoping I could
use the either of these units as an external sound device, in the light of the fact that they can capture audio.
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"tg" <tg@nospamevereverever.net> wrote in message
news:45e17b40$0$22117$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
You might need to feed a video source as well as your audio, many
'video' devices use the sync in the video as a means to supply a time
base to the audio. If so you will have to capture both and then use
something like Virtual-Dub to strip the audio tracks out.
- Posted by Richard Crowley on February 25th, 2007
":Jerry:" wrote...
The Canopus Twinpact *is* a "capture port". It takes analog
audio and video in and turns it into a DV stream for capture
by the computer via the Firewire port. This appears to be
beyond dispute or opinion. A quick check of the manufacturer's
web page will confirm this to anyone who cares to look.
What "tg" appears to be asking is whether there is any software
that takes the DV stream and records only the audio portion.
Another good question is whether the device even works without
a video input?
I am not aware of any application that will record only the audio
portion of a DV stream. Perhaps others do?
Also note that the audio portion of the typical A/V chips such as
the Canopus uses are not noted for their audio performance.
It would be OK for general use, but may not have the performance
one would like for serious music production, etc.
- Posted by Trev on February 25th, 2007
"tg" <tg@nospamevereverever.net> wrote in message
news:45e17b40$0$22117$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
camcorder, Mini disc recorder Or such
- Posted by Tony Morgan on February 25th, 2007
In message <12u36ut9tc0o640@corp.supernews.com>, Richard Crowley
<rcrowley@xpr7t.net> writes
ISTM that you are all missing the wood for the trees. Assuming that tg
is are transferring/capturing (call it what you like) from a camcorder,
they why bother with firewire (or your external devices). Since he only
wants the audio, why doesn't he simply hook up your headphone socket on
his camcorder (most camcorders have one) and connect to his PC's mic
input (3.5mm to 3.5mm). Then he can use any audio recording
program/facility he likes. Though I've never used it I believe that
there is a native windows recording facility. If he has any sound
software then he can use that.
"KISS" :-)
--
Tony Morgan
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"Tony Morgan" <Tony@rhylonline.com> wrote in message
news:B3EShRDHCb4FFwdt@axxc27.dsl.pipex.com...
<snip>
Assuming he even has a camera, he might be capturing old VHS tapes for
all we know.
- Posted by Tony Morgan on February 25th, 2007
In message <45e1b596$0$97246$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreen ews.net>,
":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> writes
even twisting wires onto his system's loudspeaker leads :-)
It used to be called lateral thinking. Now I believe it's called
"outside the box" in business-speak. :-)
In my younger days, "out of the box" meant to take your equipment out of
your jockey-shorts :-)
Or even to take your equipment out after you'd used it......
--
Tony Morgan
- Posted by tg on February 25th, 2007
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message news:12u36ut9tc0o640@corp.supernews.com...
I suppose at the end of the day it all comes down to the driver.
I'm sure the canopus twinpact has the inherent ability to behave as a sound card for audio recording but it probably never will
because Canopus haven't written a driver that will make it do that. Neither have Pinnacle.
(sigh....)
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"tg" <tg@nospamevereverever.net> wrote in message
news:45e1c1ef$0$2453$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
Try reading the replies you have been offered, what you want to do
should be possible BUT it's not going to be a simple as plugging your
audio feed into a PCI sound card!
- Posted by Harry Broomhall on February 25th, 2007
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:06:10 -0000, "tg" <tg@nospamevereverever.net>
wrote:
I think this requires special drivers to do. I know it is possible
because I have a Behringer FCA202 which is a firewire device that
behaves as a audio I/O system.
I use this because the noise on the built-in AC97 audio is
terrible.
The drivers for the Behringer are stated to *only* work with XP
SP2!
Regards,
Harry.
----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
- Posted by Trev on February 25th, 2007
":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
news:45e1c73c$0$97255$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
windows recorder or even the audacity free package
Top end sound cards have Optical toslink sockets so you could record from a
digital source.
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
news:k_udnWpA__YSTXzYnZ2dnUVZ8qaqnZ2d@pipex.net...
Wouldn't that be using the PC (on-board) sound card though?....
- Posted by Trev on February 25th, 2007
":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
news:45e1db7b$0$97259$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
news:082dnWHkjthOf3zYRVnyuAA@pipex.net...
But the OP was asking if there was a way of NOT using the sound
card... Duh!
- Posted by Trev on February 25th, 2007
":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote in message
news:45e1edc2$1$97216$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readf reenews.net...
ok Plug his hi fi into his camcorder. record the sound and the transfer it
to his PC using firewire or USB.
Even if the devise he has can and I think they can have a sound source
plugged into the red and white phone sockets and converted to digital by
the devises it will still need to be recorded by the soundcard
- Posted by :Jerry: on February 25th, 2007
"Trev" <trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM> wrote in message
news:fLedndesf92MbXzYRVnyigA@pipex.net...
I give up!... :~(
