I have some DVDs that are commercial products (possibly copy
protected, but I bought them) that I want to just strip out the sound
from (so I can listen just to the sound, hopefully converting them
to .MP3 files).

What, if any, software can do this? Cyberlink?

RL

raylopez99 wrote:


I know that Roxio EMC 9 will do this, using the Video Wave module, which
has an Extract Audio function. Gives you .WAV file.

Ken

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most of the decrypting tools will let you demux and
select streams. DVD Decrypter, DVDShrink being
the old stand by programs, and will still work for some
DVDs. They are free, but you may need a newer
program for the current DVDs.

www.videohelp.com has listings of available tools.

Luck;
Ken

On Oct 25, 12:34 pm, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Did a quick search and found this 'free' solution below for audio,
which I'll try. IN the meantime, I was using a free version of
Cyberlink PowerDVD that's expired; if anybody has a better or free DVD
player, please let me know (or I'll just have to shell out the $80 or
so and buy it, not a big deal--but is Roxio better? or about the
same?)

Update: I found Windows Media 10 plays DVDs and seems to be working
right now--I'll try it with Audacity as described below and if I have
any problems I'll post again--tx.

RL

http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jak...dio_to_cd.html

How do you record the audio portion of a DVD to a standard CD?

There are several ways to tackle the process of converting the audio
output from a DVD movie to something you can burn to CD and listen to
in your car or elsewhere. Depending on whether the DVD you want to
extract the audio from is a commercial release or something you own
the rights to you need to tread carefully in choosing your options. In
terms of complexity, the legal method of acquiring the audio from a
commercial DVD may be less complicated anyway.

The most straightforward method for separating the audio from a DVD is
simply to record it cassette deck style with an audio editing
application. Using this method, you'll open the DVD in a software
player like PowerDVD, CinePlayer or WinDVD. To record the DVD audio
track use your favorite audio editing application or download Audacity
for free. Configure Audacity's preferences to record 44,100 Hz, 16-bit
Stereo. Choose Stereo Mix from the list of recording options or "What
you hear" if you use a Creative Labs sound card. Press the Record
button and start the movie. When the movie is done, stop the recording
and close your DVD player application.

At this point, it's a good idea to save a copy of the DVD audio, in
case your computer crashes or the power goes out. You'll probably need
to break the DVD audio into more than one file in order to put it on
CDs. A CD holds a maximum of 72 minutes of Audio. Most Movies are a
least 90 minutes in length. You can either divide the audio into
individual tracks and save each track, or you can save the audio as
two big files to be burned to two CDs.

If you followed the directions here, the recorded audio likely has
several seconds of silence at the beginning of the file. Before
exporting your audio, eliminate the silence by selecting it from the
audio timeline and tapping the delete key.

To split the file into multiple tracks, use one of two methods. Either
select the section of the main audio file you want to split into a
track and actually split the track by choosing Edit > Split from the
menu which creates two separate tracks.



Using this method you then save the individual Audacity tracks as
separate files.


Alternatively, you can use the label feature to mark your track
divisions and export each labeled section as an individual track.
First, divide the audio file using separate labels for each track by
specifying a segment of the audio and choosing Project > Add Label At
Selection (Ctrl+B).



Once you've got all the track divisions label, export the labels as
individual files.



Using your CD burning software, create a playlist with a track order
to burn the files in the order you created them.

The second method for doing this requires you to first rip the DVD
using a software application like SmartRipper. If the DVD is a
commercial release with Macrovision protection and CSS, this is a
violation of the DMCA and therefore illegal in the United States as of
this writing. It's perfectly acceptable to use this method for
extracting audio from any DVD you own the rights to or created
yourself. Once you have the DVD ripped, an application called DVD2AVI
can split out the audio as one big file. For a more visual guide to
this process, take a look at the steps used in putting DVD video on a
Pocket PC. The process is the same. At this point you're back to the
same problem of needing to make the file small enough to fit on a CD.
The same directions for using Audacity described above are necessary
to split the track into a manageable file size.

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I like the free "Media Player Classic" myself. As long as you
have that copy of PowerDVD installed the codec you need to
play DVDs is available to your system.

While that process you describe includes some useful advice
on using Audacity, a real time capture isn't needed. If you
use the demux function of a "DVD Ripper" it will only take a
few minuets to extract the audio. Then you will have decrypted
audio that you can use in Audacity, BeSweet or any other audio
program.

Luck;
Ken


Luck;
Ken

On Oct 26, 7:29 am, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


Your hardware must be incredibly powerful, or maybe capturing video is
just slow for me. I am running a five year old Pentium IV chip (it's
basically a souped up Celeron chip), with 2 GB RAM and a big HD, but
when I clicked (using Audacity) on a DVD .VOB file (to extract the
audio), I got a long wait (I aborted after 10 minutes) for a 1 GB
size .VOB file (and there were five such files comprising the DVD).
Finally, I decided to do a real time capture, so I played the DVD
(using Windows Media Player 10), capturing using "stereo" and default
settings in Audacity, went away for two hours, and when I came back
the file captured was 2.3 GB of audio (saved as .AU files--Audacity
format), which, using a module in Audacity, I am converting (as I type
this) to .MP3. If there's a quicker way let me know. Perhaps I
should have not aborted the .VOB file capture--maybe it's faster than
a realtime capture--would a 1 GB file take 30 minutes to load, and
then, what, another 30 minutes to save to .MP3? So perhaps it's twice
as fast to do a non-realtime capture (since it seems saving to .MP3
will take 30 minutes right now, so 2 hours realtime capture + 30
minutes to save to .MP3 = 150 minutes total).

RL

On Oct 26, 10:24 am, raylopez99 <raylope...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I just tried importing a smaller .VOB file using Audacity,and, after
it loads it, converting it to .MP3, it gives, at the very end, a real-
time runtime error (and asks if you want to Send a report to Audacity,
etc). So it looks like with my system at least, I cannot do a non-
realtime transfer/conversion of DVD audio anyway (at least with my
copy of Audacity), so I'm stuck to doing the capture in realtime
(which is longer but not a big deal for me).

RL

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You have to decrypt the DVD first, then you can use Audacity
on the demuxed audio file. As I said you should have the
decrypting/ripping software output as demuxed audio and video.
It is that decrypted audio file that you edit with Audacity or other
audio software.

Even the old DVD Decrypter that comes with the Gordian Knot
download will do it in a couple of minutes. Any converter can
use the Lame MP3 encoding codec to turn your demuxed audio
into a .mp3 file in a few more minutes.

If you have www.VideoReDo.com you can use that on
the decrypted .vob, edit it and extract it to ES and even convert
the audio to .wav.

Luck;
Ken

On Oct 26, 2:14 pm, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Thanks for the advice. Your advice is good for a heavy duty DVD user,
but not for me--I'm just trying to trip 3 DVDs of their audio (speech,
not music). Here's how I wasted 2 hours this morning:

I checked out three programs, actually more, since some were flagged
as "trojans" by my anti-virus program (the banned in the USA program
DVD Decrypt 3.3.4.0 for example--probably a false positive but I was
too afraid to install it), and none of them, because they were
shareware or otherwise, worked. For example Easiestutils DVD Audio
Ripper 4.9.0.63 failed on my generic Penitum 4, relatively modern XP
OS system. Another one called DVD to MP3 I found on Download.com
failed. If I rebooted (I didn't bother since on my system rebooting
takes 5 to 10 minutes), which sometimes helps with the registry file,
disabled all my spyware/virus background programs, asked users on
various forums after registering, kept trying with other programs,
eventually (after about a half a day IMO) I would probably get at
least one such decrypting/ripping program to run, but for now I'll do
my business using the 'old-fashioned' way of simply real-time capture
using Audacity, which seems to work with not too much noise (real-time
capture does introduce a bit of background hiss, but since I'm
capturing the words rather than music, I don't really care).

RL

raylopez99 wrote:
<Stuff about problems extracting sound from DVDs>

If you're not stuck with having to use Cyberlink programs, there is a
freeware bundle called DVD2SVCD, which works with TMPGEnc (An Mpeg
encoder, freeware for MPEG1 or shareware for MPEG2)or any other command
liine capable mpeg encoder program, to strip a DVD down to VideoCD.
While it's doing this, it generates temporary files of the sound & video
streams which can be converted into any format you wish.

You get on your Hard drive the .IFO files, the .VOB files, .ac3
extracted audio, .mp2 encoded audio, .mpv MPEG1 video stream and a
combined .mpg (Mpeg1 format, 352x288 resolution) As a bonus, you get a
number of .bin/.cue Video CD Image files you can burn to CD-R for playback.

You do need to use DVDs you have the right to copy, though, as it is
illegal in most places to break copyright protection systems such as CSS
& the like;-)

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Oct 27, 2:34 am, John Williamson <johnwilliam...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
Too complicated for me...even though I code for a hobby! Too much
work--you have to use two different programs--I would need a FAQ to
avoid spending a day figuring it out. I'll stick to my workaround,
thanks.

RL

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193493262.217270.205860@o38g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...

Well you have reached my limit for replying to
the brain dead class of GoogleGroups posters,
maybe next time.

Luck;
Ken

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You couldn't find a good program at the site I
pointed you to in my first reply, www.videohelp.com ?

There are plenty of bad programs to be found if you
just do a Google search and believe what ever hype
you encounter. I pointed you to a reliable site, with
an extensive "Tool" listing.

Luck;
Ken

On Oct 27, 2:08 pm, "Ken Maltby" <kmal...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

OK, I took a look at the Tool listing, thanks for that tip. I decided
this program ("RipIt4Me") below might work, but I, as a brain dead
GoogleGroups person, need your expert advice--do you think it will
work? Keep in mind I am a expert coder, have written many a program,
built well over a dozen PC systems from scratch, including a dual boot
Linux/NT PC, wired my house for electricity, installed a garbage
disposer, installed a toilet, washerless faucet, tiled a bathroom, and
can even change a flat tire, though frankly I prefer to just call AAA
and not soil my white collar hands.

The reason I ask is that a lot of these programs seem not to be
supported much and might have spyware/malware in them, since
apparently the stupid Digital Millinieum Copyright Act throws
roadblocks in the way of these programs. So I appreciate your
"reputable" site. ***

RL

PS--again, my objective is to extract audio from an uncopy protected
(says so in "properties"--that it's not copy protected) DVD video, and
(using Audiacity) convert the sound to .mp3.


***UPdate: just before sending this reply I note the below, which I
think means Macromedia threatened to sue them. Also, from MajorGeeks
(a reputable mirror): http://www.majorgeeks.com/download5408.html it
seems that this program RipIt4Me is really a backup copy program,
rather than an extraction program.

PPS2--Sorry, I must be retarded, but I'm going back to just recording
in realtime mode unless somebody can step me through exactly which
programs (freeware) I have to load and in what sequence. Bye.

19 the same goes for FixVTS. . . . .

Magazine response: "The folks who built those two apps were cease-and-
desisted by persons unknown . . . . . [T]his almost certainly means
the end of development for both . . . "

RipIt4Me
RipIt4Me is a freeware utility that helps you backup your copy
protected DVDs. Recently released DVDs are now very often equipped
with stronger copy protections - such as ARccOS and RipGuard DVD.
Programs like DVD Shrink or DVD Decrypter cannot handle these types of
discs. RipIt4Me is fully automated and the wizard will guide you
through all the necessary steps involved. If you prefer, there is also
a true "1-Click" mode that will perform all the involved steps
automatically for you. Development

raylopez99 wrote:

I installed TMPGEnc after I downloaded it (under 2 Meg downlaod, IIRC).
No configuration needed. It just unpacks itself into a directory, &
doesn't even put any keys into the registry. Ditto with DVD2SVCD (11.5
Meg or thereabouts), then I told it to look for the VCD.ini file
(Unpacked into the install directory) & load that. It finds TMPGEnc or
any other MPEG encoder you have installed while it installs itself. This
took 5 or 10 minutes on a Celeron 1.2GHz machine. Then I put a DVD into
the drive & told it to rip & convert. A while later (About a fifth of
realtime speed on that machine), I had all the stuff on HD in a
directory I'd specified. .ac3 to .wav or CD conversion is a doddle, as
almost any sound editing program can do it.

If that's too hard....

There's an excellent support forum on Doom9 for this system.

The *only* reason DVD2SVCD doesn't include its own MPEG encoder is that
the encoders aren't freeware under the GPL scheme, & royalties have to
be paid for using MPEG2.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Oct 27, 3:35 pm, John Williamson <johnwilliam...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
Well John thanks for writing! I forgot to add...I also a rocket
scientist (well, I took a few graduate level courses before dropping
out to go to business school, when I found out it's way harder than I
thought--for one thing, you have to be familiar with the so-called
Navier Stokes equation of fluid mechanics, which is one of the most
difficult equations in the world, arguably even harder than the
Schrodinger equation of quantum physics).

OK, with that background, here's my latest thoughts on this--remember,
I'm trying to convert .VOB WIndows DVD files to extract the audio
into .MP3 format, using only freeware, on a Celeron based Windows XP
OS.

checked out:

http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/136/59/ How to rip audio from
a DVD to Audio CD--but uses as the example freeware/discontinued
program "DVD Decrypter", rather than Nero (which I tried to get to
work but failed), and my spyware program identifiefd "DVD Decrypter"
as a trojan (rightly or wrongly, probably the latter).

This program: TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress Ver. 4.3.1.222 Trial Version -- has
severe limitations (30 min max output):

This software is a trial version freely usable for 14 days.
After the installation, an Internet connection is required to receive
your temporary license validation.
Limitation: Output file length is limited to 30 minutes. All functions
and options are usable except the Batch encode tool and the Project
Open/Save options.

In lieu of TMPG I will try this freeware: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Any_Video_...er__d5692.html
"Any Video Converter 2.03", and report back.

I'll report back later...

RL

raylopez99 wrote:
some of the sites that carry it are actually infested with malware
carrying versions. It also allegedly has certain behaviours that trigger
spyware/ trojan warnings, but I don't use it, so I'm not fully aware of
what these are.
DVD Decrypter fell foul if the Millenium DRM acts in the USA, so the
developer dropped it. (As`far as I'm aware)


Lets me download version 2.524 as a free, unrestricted MPEG1 version
with a 30 day limit on availability of MPEG2 encoding after
installation. This is the version I've been using for ages now. It has
no limit on length of output file in MPEG1 format.
I have had problems with later versions, though.

However, the DVD2SVCD bundle processing only falls over due to the lack
of a video encoder *after* it's extracted the audio files;-)

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Oct 28, 5:23 am, John Williamson <johnwilliam...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
Yes, that's right. So I avoid.

I did install DVD2SVCD just now, along with "Any Video
Converter" (http://www.any-video-converter.com/download/)

Re DVD2SVCD, I could not figure out from what menus to use to simply
deconstruct a .VOB file into something which I could use Audacity to
extract audio. Please advise. Too many options on this program.

Next, I used the program "Any Video Converter" which *did* work on
a .VOB file, to extract into "MPG" format (either 1 or 2, I chose 2),
which then Audacity was able to extract the audio, but with one big
annoying problem: when I played the audio that Audacity extracted,
periodically, every second, a very annoying series of high pitched
"peeps" or "beeps", like little Martians speaking, would pop up. I
had used the default settings (whatever they are, I didn't look) for
both programs. For "A V C" program I exported the sound into .MP2,
not .AVI, which, now that I type this, perhaps is the reason for the
sound (since .MP2 is not .MP3?)*** Just checked again--Audacity
imports the .mpg file as .MP3, and the sounds are "skipping" high
pitched sounds, loud enough to be annoying and make the audio painful
to listen to--can this be a failed conversion from .MP2? Maybe I'll
export to .AVI but. At least when I was doing a real-time capture the
background "hiss" was not annoying and I could listen to the audio.
Now I can't. The one advantage that this non-real-time conversion had
was that indeed it was about 3 times faster (10 minutes for "Any Video
Converter" to extract the audio from a 30 minute .VOB video file),
but, the annoying thing was this program did not give a "progress bar"
so it was hard to tell when it was going to end.

All in all, this is just too much work for me. Unless I hear back
from you or anybody else within the next day or so, I will disinstall
these programs and go back to just using Audacity in a real-time
conversion scheme while playing WIndows Media player.

BTW, I've just wasted a good part of 2 hours doing this, as I had
feared, but thanks for your time in any event.

RL

*** UPDATE: Before I hit "send", I think the solution is to export
the .VOB to .AVI video format, then, take the sound from this. But
will Audacity handle .AVI? Is there a freeware (reputable, virus-
free) program for .AVI (audio) to .MP3 (audio)? Does DVD2SVCD do this
conversion? I'll reboot now and check back here within the next 24
hrs for more info, and will post any workaround that I come up with.

On Oct 28, 5:54 am, raylopez99 <raylope...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Seems that you must pay money to decode into .MP3 legally. There are
several such programs on the market, I might just buy one.

RL

raylopez99 wrote:
website:-)

Lame Ain't an Mp3 Encoder...
But it produces files that play back perfectly well as mp3's.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.