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making a single processor system into dual processor?
Posted by redcat on November 15th, 2003


has anyone tried converting their PC into a dual processor setup? what are
teh challenges involved?
I am thinking of going upto a dual P4 2.4 ghz system with a gig of ram. is
it even advisable? i am assuming that a new motherboard would have to be
installed right away...and what else?

sri


Posted by DK on November 16th, 2003


"redcat" <fakemail@whycheck.com> wrote in message
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The biggest issue I faced was with the OS - you need to have an OS that
supports dual CPU's (NT, 2000, or XP), and you'll have to reinstall the OS -
at least that's what I had to do with NT when I did it the first time.



Posted by redcat on November 16th, 2003


that seems to be a no-brainer. I have win xp anyways.
what was your experience with replacing motherboard, etc? did you have to
upgrade your power supply system as well?





Posted by Robert Morein on November 16th, 2003



"DK" <tony@getridofthispart.medievalmarketplace.com> wrote in message
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The standard P4 is not capable of multiprocessor operation; this requires
the Xeon.

Many more varieties of memory exist than back in the day. So the RAM from
your old board probably won't be specified for the new one.

Dual processor motherboards also draw more power.
Practically every 12V board requires an additional power connector, and
stable operation requires that you choose a supply that resembles what's on
the "approved list."

I have a dual processor Athlon 2460, in which I had originally installed
only one processor. When the price of the Athlon MP 1.2 dropped to $52, I
added another.

I also have a P4 1.4 with a gig of RAM. I have concluded that no upgrade of
this system is possible, because there is not a single component on the
motherboard that could be salvaged. It's more cost effective to just migrate
such a system to a secondary purpose, or backup.

Your P4 2.4 gig system probably has a 400 mHz or 533 mHz front side bus.
The newer 3.0 P4's with 800 mHz busses, hyperthreading, and dual-bank DDR
are the most cost effective upgrades out there. I would guess that they give
70% of the performanced of a dual processor Xeon system, because the Xeon
has a 533 mHz front side bus that is shared between two processors. Memory
bandwidth is a problem. Perhaps when DDR 400 becomes mainstream, Xeon will
get an 800 mHz bus.

The real advantage to the latest dual processor Xeon and Opteron boards is
the layout of the PCI busses. A 3.0 gig P4 has a single PCI bus, which is
fine for running a video editing program which uses local storage. But if
your requirements included networking by gigabit ethernet, this would not
work. It would probably not work for editing uncompressed video, and it
would not work with Avid's hardware accelerator for "Avid Pro".

The dual processor boards have three PCI bus segments that can independently
DMA data to RAM. The busses typically run at 66 and 133 mHz, and are 64 bits
wide. One bus can be used for firewire->external devices, another for RAID
or SCSI disks, and another for general use.

But a typical consumer system just hangs a few hard drives off the internal
IDE or SATA ports, so none of the above are useful.







Posted by DK on November 16th, 2003



"redcat" <fakemail@whycheck.com> wrote in message
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You'd be surprised..

I didn't have to upgrade the power supply, but this was with a standard
Pentium. I DID have to adjust the motherboard jumpers, though - and the
CPU's had to be the same speed.

With the higher power requirements of the P4's, I can't say if you'd need
any changes to the power supply, but if you do, you're as well off just
getting a new case.

As a warning, though - get at least a mid-size case. A mini-tower or
something else that small will be difficult to work in.



Posted by redcat on November 16th, 2003


Thanks Robert and DK for the enlightenment! guess i had better re-think the
whole idea and start from scratch instead of messing with this one.
will keep you posted on acquisitions...



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