Hy,
My problem is very simple, but i couldn't handle it:
I have 4 video tracks of 30 min. each. They are perfectly in syncro,
'cause they've been taken with 4 cameras at the same time.
I would like to put them on 4 parallel tracks, and get the final
video, switching from one to another.
The same work I would do while using an analog video mixer and four
sources.
As far as I saw non-linear softwares allow you to switch from track to
track only when a cut is set on the track. But I don't want to cut! I
will loose syncro! And it's stupid as long as you can get 30 min. of
perfect syncro on four vides!

Any help?

Thanks


DD

Have you looked into Adobe's Premiere Pro CS3 with multi camera
editing.

I used it for a project like you're describing. It shows you the 4
sources, and you just click play and watch the sources and click on
the screen you want to be the result. There's a link about it at the
bottom of this post.
http://digitalproducer.digitalmedian...jsp?id=36989-0

"/Tx2" wrote ...
A multi-camera production is just what it sounds like.
Virtually all TV shows produced in studios are multi-
camera (live-switcvhed), and many produced in the
field (like so-called "reality" shows) are also multi-
camera, but more frequently edited together in post.

Even big-budget Hollywood films have a multi-camera
look, even though usually only shot with one camera
(and then edited together).

The advantage to doing it in editing (vs. "live-switching"
in real-time) is that you can go back at your leisure and
select the best shot for each moment, etc.

A demo of the result would be exactly like any othe multi-
camera video production. You shouldn't be able to tell
from the final product whether it was live-switched,
or edited in post.

Richard Crowley wrote:

Lighting (shadows, etc.), picture composition, and things related to
props and the set in general are easier to manage when shooting with
just one camera, but live switching is of course a must for shows that
are broadcast live - and apparently a necessary timesaver for daytime
soaps, and the like, which must be done cheaply, on a tight schedule,
and with no time for multiple takes.

--
znark

<ddbackmail@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why do you say that you would lose sync?
Is this sync with an audio track? or is it the
sync between the four video tracks?

Generally you are pretty much restricted to
frame accuracy in your editing and (not
coincidentally) in timeline placement. You
should be able make frame accurate cuts
and place them on the timeline in "perfect sync".

Luck;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I think he just means that once you start cutting and mucking around ..
And if his intention is to do the same as just live switching then you
should never need to cut and disable tracks or whatever.

"nappy" <n@n.n> wrote in message
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"Live Switching" is Linear Editing as opposed to NonLinear
Editing. You can't "do the same as just live switching" in a
NLE.

It might be easier to think of it like the old time film editing
where you use a razor blade to cut between the frames and
then tape on the next sequence of frames. If you had four
film cameras "in syncro" your frame cuts would be exactly
at the same instance, in a frame count from a common point/
clap. Even without any special camera synchronization, a
common point/clap provides for the coordination of multiple
camera footage/angles.

All that any editing process Linear or Nonlinear results in is
a single linear timeline that is the edited video. A NLE will
end by rendering that linear edited timeline, it just was able to
use material in a nonlinear fashion to build the linear timeline.

Thinking of it as in a broadcast studio live event (actually
they are more likely digitally delayed, to some extent) with
multiple cameras feeding a board in a booth, won't be of
much help in dealing with editing on a PC. Trying to do so,
would be trying to put the worst features of both approaches
together.

Luck;
Ken

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:17:25 -0000, ddbackmail@gmail.com wrote:


Find an audio or video spot on each of the tapes that make it easy to sync up the 4 videos.
When you cut each, you do not lose sync, unless you have ripple edit enabled. Otherwise, you can
simply cut out the scenes you want from each track. You are never cutting the original, it is all
non destructible.

I use Newtek's VT4 and a multicam plug in that allows up to 9 cameras. I know Final Cut Pro has this
feature, I am not sure any other editors do.

Tony

On Oct 8, 4:17 pm, ddbackm...@gmail.com wrote:

Take a look at the newest version of Sony Vegas Pro 8.0 at
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...ct.asp?pid=457
as it has built-in tools to do this very easily.
If that's not enough. there's also Ultimate S at
http://vasst.com/product.aspx?id=d51...a-3ab01fee6db7
Infinitcam at http://vasst.com/product.aspx?id=af2...2-88b4c435cca4
and Excalibur at http://www.jetdv.com/excalibur/multicam.php
All of them have trial versions.

Mike

<ddbackmail@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 (and, possibly, Pro 2) allow you to do this.

Thanks everybody.
I'll try some. I'll let you know

DD

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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...Ken.. it's me.. nappy.. !

Thanks for the primer but.. I understand what he is looking for.. And I
would like to have the same sometimes..

The idea is.. typically with a multicamera setup I woudl ine up all four
cameras and cut between them as I go. OR remove clips form them and drag
them to the timeline.

Another method would be to highlight the area of the camera which would be
in the program. Rather than cut them all up just place markers over one
camera at a time as you go along. Like a live switch..

No sure if this exists but you could even just place each camera on one key
and do a switch through th program just by hitting 1,2,3,4, etc..

I haven't played with FCP or Premiere's multicamera stuff.. it may be just
like this..

<ddbackmail@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Several video editors will do this. Including Avid, Vegas and Premiere. I
would assume Final Cut will do it, too.

Randy

"nappy" <n@n.n> wrote in message
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OK, sure you are right, and I can see where such a
feature could come in handy, might speed things up.

Mike K listed some interesting software to aid just
that sort of thing.

I guess my point was that the OP could produce the
same results, in the end; building a timeline from cuts/
takes.

I wasn't knocking your post or the OP's request for
such an editing feature.

Luck;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:-
no worries Ken.. I took no offense at all.

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:17:25 -0000, ddbackmail@gmail.com wrote:

Avid Xpress Pro can do it and Adobe Premiere Pro.Several programs have
plugins like VASST for Sony Vegas.

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