Hi,

I am planning on getting a new computer. I will be getting a new
graphics card with it... with a Video IN feature.

What I want to do is to copy the contents of the many video cassettes
I have onto DVD.

I have a choice of the following graphics cards :

ATI Radeon 9600 256M
1) http://www.sapphiretech.com/vga/9600.asp

or

Asus V9520VS 128M ( FX5200 )
2) http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9520vs/overview.htm


With choice #1, it says VIVO "optional". What do they mean optional?
Are they manufacturing some cards with VIVO and some cards without?
Also how much disk space do I need for a 2 hour video?

I've never captured video to DVD before but I assume the process is to
copy the contents of the video cassette to HD and then encode/compress
the video data to DVD. Is that right?

Thanks

"zalzon" <zalzonishappy@zalll.com> wrote in message
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Optional means exactly that. Most stores do not stock the VIVO cards if it's
an option. You should check out the ASUS 9600xt/9800xt as these cards are
vivo and only vivo, that's why they are more expensive as they don't have a
cheaper non-vivo option.

Capturing for DVD is most easily done using software designed for DVD
production. These include a high quality MPEG2 codec which can capture
directly to MPEG2 avoiding AVI's and recompressing. The most time consuming
thing about preparing DVD's is recompressing. It's amazing how much time you
save by working in the MPEG2 format you will use on the final DVD. You
should also look out DVD authoring packages which also create DVD's without
recompressing.

I am currently using Ulead Videostudio and DVD Workshop as these both avoid
recompressing.

If you work in MPEG2 it's easy to work size's out as you know a recordable
DVD is approx 4GB and will store about 2 hrs of good quality video. You need
about 20GB of disk space to capture and edit video, and then create the DVD
files for burning.

THanks for your advice. Both card you mentioned ASUS 9600xt and
9800xt are well out of my budget range. What do you think of the :

Asus V9520VS 128M ( FX5200 )
2) http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9520vs/overview.htm

I'm not a professional videographer or whatever. I'd just like to
capture decent quality video to DVD.

It looks like lots of space (20GB !) is required so I'll size my hd
purchase accordingly.

"zalzon" <zalzonishappy@zalll.com> wrote in message
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I wouldn't be changing a card to anything which wasn't faster than the
geforce4 family and DX9 complient, anything else is just false economy as it
won't play the latest games. The 9600xt is not that expensive and not much
more expensive than the non VIVO version such as the Saphire.

The alternative is to get a video capture card or external USB2 (not USB1)
capture device.

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:47:36 -0000, "John Russell"
<john_e_russell@hotmail.com> wrote:

A decent one can be had on e--bay for much less than a combo video
card.
I picked up a ATI 128 all-in-wonder for about 40 bucks.
You don't even need one this fancy if all you want to do is capture tv
quality video.
640x480 29.9 fps is generally the defacto standard for regular
television resolutions for digital video.
You should be able to pick up a simple video capture card on e-bay for
as little as 30 bucks.

Here are some links to cards currently selling on e-bay.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search...apture+card%22


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=40 160


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=37 61


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=37 62

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=37 63

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=36 68

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:47:36 -0000, "John Russell"
<john_e_russell@hotmail.com> wrote:

What one calls "Expensive" is relative. A given price for a product
can be a drop in the bucket for some, or more than a few month's
computer budget for other, especially for mid to high end graphics
cards.

"Gary Tait" <classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote in message
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With top end cards costing £300-£400 I consider the current mid range cards
at £150 to be a bargain, especially now that they are at very least equal to
Gf4 cards in Dx8. How they got away for so long selling mid range dx9 cards
that where slower than gf4 in dx8 I shall never know.

I'm not much of a gamer, really just need a card that can take video
IN. If I didn't need video in, i'd be using a very low end budget
card.

I heard the Radeon 7200 (some version of it) had vivo. If I could buy
a new card like that here, that would serve the purpose.

I don't understand why ATI & NVIDIA make cards with a smattering of
features like dual vga, dual dvi, digital vcr, tv out ..etc. and a
host of other seemingly useless features...but not one budget card
with video in.

I am looking into this at the present time but having recently purchased a
9600 pro I have no desire to "upgrade" or spend $350. Canadian dollars for a
VIVO card.
So I am looking at Products from Leadtek and LIfeView....that do TV as well
as Digital Camera input.
Do a google for Leadtek Winfast DV2000 or Lifeview Flyvideo DV 3000.Both
have the normal input connections as well as Firewire connection for fast
transfer of video and come with software that converts/burns to DVD using
MPEG2 .
worth a look at the price they are asking...........aprox $70.00 Can
peter
"zalzon" <zalzonishappy@zalll.com> wrote in message
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NTSC television is 720x480 at .9091 aspect ratio. Don't know of any video
cards that capture at that. If you just want to burn DVD's, look into a USB 2
capture card from someone like ADS.

Craig H.