Have used version 6 for mac for a few years now. Trying to capture DV
from my XL-1 with audio on both channels;

There is no option to choose audio channel from within Premiere!!??

Am I missing something here, or is this program just lacking in this
very important area?

TIA

Disgusted In Denver

Should I take this underwhelming response as a "never heard of it, don't
miss it, don't know why'd you'd need it"? Has any Premiere Windows user
ever looked for this feature?

Oh well, back to the drawing board...



Mark A. Smith wrote:

I've been through the dialog boxes exhaustively. I just don't believe
it's there. My impatience stems from this- I have one larger video drive
that I just moved from my mac to the pc, now I have to move it back
again and get on with the work.

Adobe may prefer the pc for their video products, and the 6.5 rev on the
pc is much better than the mac offering, but this is one feature I can't
live without.

I always put wireless and hand held mics on channel two so I can use the
on-camera mic as a backup.

I'm confident that if I overlooked this function, someone would have set
me straight quickly.

Thanx,

Mark

Cory wrote:

"Mark A. Smith" <MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3F033412.5020508@netscape.net...
Maybe I don't quite understand your question, but I often record from a
Sennheisser mike onto the left channel of my PD150 and from the camera mike
onto the right channel. When I capture into Premiere that's what I get. If I
want to use only one channel, then I use Clip > Audio Options > Duplicate
Left or Duplicate Right.

Gary

Most (all?) dv corders and decks have some provision for 2 discreet
stereo channels. You are describing using the left and right sides of
channel 1. Most decks and camcorders can only use the second channel as
an overdub feature.

When it came out, the XL-1 was the only pro-sumer camera to allow
simultaneous recording on both channels, effectively allowing you to
record 4 discreet channels into stereo pairs.

Unfortunately, the Windows Premiere does not seem to make any
accomodation for getting audio out of the second stereo channel.

Gary Pollard wrote:

This might clarify it further;

I'm not actually playing back from the XL-1, but from a JVC SR-VS20, a
combo mini-dv/S-VHS deck. The fact is that when I shot the footage on my
XL-1, I used Audio 1 for the stereo on-camera mic, and Audio 2 for
either a wireless or handheld dynamic mic.

Mark A. Smith wrote:

"Mark A. Smith" <MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3F03646D.1010804@netscape.net...
Ah right. It's been a long while since I used my XL-1, and I usually find
two tracks adequate for my purposes.

There may be some help here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/articles/article67.php

It seems that usually people record it as a separate wav.file and then synch
it up.

I would do that, if I saw a way to switch to the 2nd channel input! Do I
need to go analog in 8o!



Gary Pollard wrote:

In my experience on the mac:

The firewire output from the deck or camera was independent of the
analog settings on the deck/camera, in other words the output from the
deck (the analog outs to tv/monitor) had no affect on the signal sent
thru the firewire.

In the batch list in premiere, I could assign settings that took the
audio from Ch. 1 or 2, and just let the batch capture go. No matter what
the deck was set to (ch 1 or 2), it would remain unaffected by the
signal called for by the computer.

Gary, you were the guy who helped me my PC purchase? Thanx for all your
help there. I really didn't know which way to turn. My only regret on
the Enlight case is that the 5.25 drives/inserts sit way back from the
bezel. Everything else is great.

Gary Pollard wrote:

"Mark A. Smith" <MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3F036FD0.8070103@netscape.net...

Hi Mark,

One solution someone has suggested to your problem on the Premiere forum is
to use Scenalyzer Live to capture.

He says the free demo version of ScLive will watermark the video file, but
the audio files come through intact & it handles all four channels
properly -- you get one stereo pair associated with the avi file, and the
second stereo pair as a wav file.

www.scenalyzer.com

If you like it, it only costs $40 to register.

I think that was another Gary, maybe Gary Bettan. Hope the above advice can
help you a little with this problem though.

Gary

HI Mark

From the Premiere Support Knowledgebase

---------------------------------

Capturing Stereo Audio

A DV device can record audio on any of four channels; however, Premiere can
capture only two channels. Which channels Premiere captures depends on which
channels you select on the DV device for output. For most cameras, the
default setting is to record the internal microphone on channels one and two
(sometimes referred to as stereo pair one), and to record an external
microphone on channels three and four (stereo pair two). The audio mix
settings for the camera's VCR mode usually default to stereo pair one. Menu
settings on most DV devices enable you to select which stereo pair is
transmitted via the IEEE 1394 port. You can select stereo pair one, stereo
pair two, or a mix of these pairs. For details, refer to the DV device's
documentation.

Gary

If this works correctly, it will beat the Mac on this issue for taking
them both down (good for ambience and discreet signal at once).

Thanx for your input on this subject. I will try out the Scenalyzer now.

Mark

(and thanks to the other Gary for the PC build help.)

Gary Pollard wrote:

In Premier: 6 or 6.5, you have to capture both channels however:

click on the audio track to select it. Now right click on it, select audio
options,
now you can select Duplicate L or R or Mute L or R that should do ya...








"Mark A. Smith" <MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3F035D61.6080505@netscape.net...

This would work if you only wanted half of a single stereo pair ... but this
thread is pursuing two stereo pairs as found in the 32K/12bit option.

GB

If your output to vcd or dvd, upsampling your 12/32 audio weill
cause artifacts that are quite audible. If you really need to record
4 tracks, use a separate audio record synced to your camera.

"Mark A. Smith" <MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:3F038102.70507@netscape.net...

I have never heard upsampling artifacts on the mac side. Is this an
issue with Premiere in windows?



Nobody_of_Consequence wrote:

In article <3F03B6CE.9060707@netscape.net>, Mark A. Smith
<MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote:

No, that's impossible. There are no issues whatsoever with any Windows
software. It all runs perfectly and supports every feature of every
Mac program ever written.

"Mark A. Smith" wrote ...
We are all entitled to our beliefs, based on how we percieve the world.
However the fact remains that 4-channel, 32K, 12-bit mode in DV is not
widely supported, in hardware OR software.

It wouldn't be the first gaping hole in Premiere. Note that it has
nothing to do with Microsoft or Firewire (since obviously Scenalyzer
can properly interperet the 12/32 bitstream without any change to
the OS). Microsoft is fully implicated in lots of bugs and deficiencies,
but this isn't one of them.

I have Jvc 5000 which does the same thing on audio and I have the
same jvc deck and I also edit in P6.5 what you have to do switch audio
channels, but first make a copy of the one you have then copy and
paste and then right click, switch channels, and there is both your
channels

Zac

I think your are confusing ch1/2 (one stereo pair) with ch3/4 (2nd stereo
pair, 32k 12 bit only). If you successfully capture these 'extra' audio
channels, they are filed either as a separate .wav file or as alternatives
to the first pair ... Premiere doesn't know how to open a clip with two
stereo tracks attached.

The copy/paste option works only with a single stereo pair (left/right in
Premiere speak) even though your camcorder many label that same l/r pair as
ch1/ch2 as it does with my PD150 ... which is a two channel mono device as
shipped, not configured for stereo unless you use a 2nd microphone.

GB