I am trying to create a project using several different clips and I
want to have a song playing in the background. Here is the tricky part
for me. I want to have part of the clips where the voice track is
muted and you just hear the song but then for other parts of the clip
I want the song volume to be reduced to allow the speaking on the
voice track come through clearly.

So far I have only been able to either mute the whole track or have it
all playing at the same volume. Any ideas here?

Thanks
Dave

<flyingrrt@shaw.ca> wrote ...
What video editing application are you using?
What kind of computer? (Mac? PC?)
What operating system are you using?
Do you have any additional audio editing software available?
Were you voice tracks recorded "clean" (without b.g. music)?
Is your background music also "clean" and on a separate audio track?

It's called 'ducking' and.. you .. need an actual duck to do it. gets
messy..


<flyingrrt@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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"nappy" wrote ...
Have you been following the "how to silence geese"
discussion over on r.a.m.p.s? And the followup
thread on how to silence frogs? Recommended for
the amusement factor, if nothing more.

"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote in message
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I always thought it involved a Rubberband.

Luck;
Ken

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:39:22 -0500, in 'rec.video.desktop',
in article <Re: selected muting>,
"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


To the OP: Ignore these silly people who are here just to have fun and
not provide useful information.

It is indeed called ducking, and can be done in hardware (usually when
recording or broadcasting live) but can also be done in post provided
that you have separate vocal and music tracks.

All that's involved is using the vocal as a control - when it rises
above a certain set level (threshold), the level of the background
music is lowered so that the vocal can be heard. When the vocal drops
off (ends, drops below a certain level), the level of the background
music is automatically raised. Hardware duckers are typically used in
radio stations and other broadcasting scenarios.

When a DJ talks over a song that's being played, and the volume level
of the music drops while he's speaking and then increases after he's
done speaking, that's called ducking. There are numerous
compressor/limiter/gates on the market that can be set up as a ducker,
sometimes using what's known as a sidechain signal as the control. Of
course, it's also possible to manually ride gain to achieve the same
effect, but automation is nice.

Quack, quack!

--
Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY
[Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
(also covers AVCHD and XDCAM EX).

"Frank" <frank@nojunkmail.humanvalues.net> wrote in message
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aflac!

While Frank's response was indeed insightful and accurate as usual..

He neglected to mention that in your editor you can simply drag the audio
level in the clips in your editor to do this. .

Get serious Frank!

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:35:46 -0700, in 'rec.video.desktop',
in article <Re: selected muting>,
"nappy" <n@n.n> wrote:

OMG, I must be getting old! I just broke my rubber band!!!

--
Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY
[Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
(also covers AVCHD and XDCAM EX).

"Frank" wrote ...
I'm still trying to imagine how Ken gets the rubber
bands to stay on the frogs. :-)

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:52:32 -0700 (PDT), "flyingrrt@shaw.ca"
<flyingrrt@shaw.ca> wrote:

If you're using Vegas or a video/audio editor with similar capability,
you can achieve the desired effect by adding "Audio Envelopes" to each
audio track.

In Vegas that's "insert|Audio Envelopes|Volume". Right mouse click
along the track to add "Points" (add at least two points for each
place you'd like to raise of lower the audio).

Then, simply mouse-click in the area that requires adjustment and drag
the envelopes "higher" or "lower" to adjust the volume of the
respective tracks. You also can drag the beginning and/or end of each
track to add fade-ins or fade-outs, respectively.

Good luck!

Hal Lowe

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:28:04 GMT, Hal Lowe <hallowe@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Clarification:

Actually, you'll most likely end up adding four points at each volume
adjustment area. Then, you'll drag the center-most points for more
control over the volume adjustments.

Hal.




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"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote in message
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Frogs are simple, that's what SuperGlue was invented for.

For Frank and the OP; the more practical replies come after
Mr. Crowley's questions are answered.

Luck;
Ken

"Hal Lowe" <hallowe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Volume "Envelope" / "Rubberband" whatever; it's that line that runs
through the middle of your audio tracks. (That's assuming you are in
this NG to talk about how to accomplish things using an Editing
program, on a computer.)

Luck;
Ken

"Frank" wrote ...
"These silly people" are amusing ourselves while waiting
for the OP to return and provide ANY useful details about
his question. For that matter we don't even know whether
the information YOU provided is useful to the OP?

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:45idnSJNd5HhdmPanZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@giganews.com ...
Well, I'm just going to be silly and offer nothing useful.

Are you talking about . . . a rubber duck?

On 4/11/2008, PTravel posted this:
To escalate this: whenever you makle a pun like that, be prepared to
.... duck!

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote ...
I got the distinct impression that Frank was calling
us all quacks. :-)

On Apr 10, 4:52*pm, "flying...@shaw.ca" <flying...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Thanks to those who gave USEFUL advice. This sounds like what I was
looking for and I will give this a try.

Dave

<flyingrrt@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 4:52 pm, "flying...@shaw.ca" <flying...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Thanks to those who gave USEFUL advice. This sounds like what I was
looking for and I will give this a try.

Dave


Typical GG poster.

<flyingrrt@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 4:52 pm, "flying...@shaw.ca" <flying...@shaw.ca> wrote:


It's editing 101. You learn that withing hours of starting up whatever
editor you are using for the first time. .