- Womble MPEG Wizard - no cut out tool?
- Posted by Terry Pinnell on November 15th, 2006
I'm doing my first editing in Womble MPEG Video Wizard. After much
searching, am I right that there's no tool for removing a marked
selection AB? If so, isn't that a rather major omission? Although I've
done little 'proper' editing before, surely deleting short pieces of a
clip must be a frequently performed operation? After using the Mark In
and Mark Out tools, I expected to be able to simply click a tool
called Delete or Cut...
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Terry, West Sussex, UK
- Posted by paulg7083 on November 15th, 2006
After marking the section for deleting, click between the marks to
highlight the section. Another button on the right hand side of your
window will highlight to show its' availability (it's right next to the
button you can use to make the AB marks). Click on this button and your
segment will be deleted.
I had exactly the same problem when I first started using Womble.
Paul
On Nov 15, 4:21 am, Terry Pinnell <terry...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
- Posted by blahblah_nospam@sbcglobal.net on November 15th, 2006
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:qs0ml2t08gm418n6pbftpk9d6iuqvo5jp8@4ax.com...
If you haven't already, give VideoRedo a try. It's a lot more
intuitive, and capable, and the cuts it makes (unlike Womble
VW) are 100% predictable.
I've recommended VideoRedo to dozens of Womble users
over the years, and I'm not aware of a single one that went
back to Womble.
- Posted by Terry Pinnell on November 15th, 2006
"blahblah_nospam@sbcglobal.net" <EDM_spamblock_@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Thanks both.
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Terry, West Sussex, UK
- Posted by Ken Maltby on November 15th, 2006
"blahblah_nospam@sbcglobal.net" <EDM_spamblock_@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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Both products have their advantages. For simple frame
accurate cuts and join editing, of MPEG; nothing beats
VideoReDo. It also is a very fast tool that can automatically
correct many common MPEG faults. It has a number of
manual adjustments you can make, as well.
The Womble products have expanded from frame accurate
cutting, in a different direction. They added a number of simple
but useful tools to do transitions, add text titles, manipulate the
audio, ect.. For a lot of the quick "Home Movie" efforts it can
be the answer. You can add/integrate clips made in a more
featured editing package, to allow the quick production of a
more complex "Home Move. This can result in a very short
time between a shoot and a finished movie and/or DVD.
Having both, is a good idea, if you can afford it and if you
want/need both set of features. It is sorta the fast lane for
MPEG editing.
Personally, I have VideoReDo on my system all the time
and use it almost every day. I haven't had Womble on my
system in quite awhile, but I have a number of other programs
that together can do everything the Womble products do, and
then some. Besides, for any real editing I have plenty of time;
and for quick cut and join I have VideoReDo.
Luck;
Ken
- Posted by Netmask on November 16th, 2006
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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There a number of ways to do it - this is just one way that I use to delete
commercials out of a TV program.
Simply left click the beginning of the section you want to remove then right
click on that part of the track to be removed and select split ---- scroll
to the end of the commercial if that's what you are removing, right click
and highlight the part of the track to be removed (should be to the left)
and select split again. The centre bit to be removed is highlighted and all
you do is press the delete button. If you made a mistake - control Z brings
it back. There will be a gap now between the 2 parts you want to keep .
right click in the time line and select clear gaps - the 2 parts will join
up.
read the docs that explain everything quite clearly and don't forget the
mouse has a right button as well!!
VideoRedo is quite good for simple edits like this as well.
- Posted by Terry Pinnell on November 16th, 2006
"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Thanks to all for the feedback and practical advice - much appreciate
it.
I have indeed forked out for both Womble Wizard (DVD version) and
VideoRedo. Which gets me more flexibility - but also costs me heavily
in learning time! Sort of ironic, because my driving motive is to save
time!
Also, muddying the water, I see my purchase of Womble MPEG+DVD Wizard
came bundled with something called MPEG-VCR. At a glance it seems
redundant because presumably the Wizard has all the same functionality
and more? But, apart from a nice large single preview screen, it
*does* have a single button for cutting the marked section.
On the other hand, apart from its obvious advantage of letting me
'assemble' my intended DVD as well as edit its components, one feature
I particularly like about WVW is its sound editing. I was able to
reduce the background music briefly so that the audio on a video clip
could be heard properly. However ... that seems an unstable area. I
had several crashes while moving 'sound points' around etc. The first
lost me a lot of work. From then onwards I've been using Ctl-s after
virtually every operation ;-)
Hey, nearly forgot 3.0 XPress, which I bought ages ago So I guess I'm
over-equipped but under-trained at this stage ;-(
--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
- Posted by Ken Maltby on November 16th, 2006
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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It can work out better if you set the music channel/track volume
at a lower level, than the dialog or background effects. Then you
can raise the music volume for dramatic effect. This is often
accompanied with lowering the background sound level.
/Ken
- Posted by Terry Pinnell on November 17th, 2006
"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Thanks, but doesn't the Volume setting apply to an entire MP3? I
typically want to adjust over much shorter sections than that.
Terry, West Sussex, UK
- Posted by nightcatwu@gmail.com on December 22nd, 2006
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Hi.
If you edit the video clip in the Input Monitor of Womble MPEG Video
Wizard.
you may using the Mark in and Mark out tools to mark an work area, then
cut
the mark area using the new feature of CUT in Input Monitor.
If you edit the video clip in the Timeline. you may split the clip that
you want to
Cut or delete.
I have used the Womble products many years. I think it's the best and
simple
editor.
Anyway, the support of Womble is very nice and quick.
-N
- Posted by Terry Pinnell on December 22nd, 2006
nightcatwu@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks. I've become a bit more proficient with WVW in the month or so
since my original post. I tend to use the Timeline, cutting at the
start and end of the bit I want to remove. I still think a simple
'Delete' button is an obvious requirement (as exists in Womble
MPEG-VCR).
I too like WVW. But IMO it's worryingly unstable. In particular, I've
found that it crashes frequently if I place MP3 files in the music
soundtrack. I fact, I now *always* convert any MP3s I want to use to
WAV first. That's time and HD space I'd rather not have to invest.
Another aspect I don't like is its text facilities. Maybe it's partly
inexperience, but I find it non-intuitive and clumsy, especially if
trying to use the graphics too.
Also, quality of its zoom effects is very poor. (See thread 'Womble
MPEG Wizard - quality of output?' here, 11th Nov.) At an early stage I
abandoned trying to use them to emulate Ken Burns effects on my
slideshows. I have reverted to MemoriesOnTV to do both that and add
text captions.
Yes, I have also found technical support to be prompt and helpful.
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Terry, West Sussex, UK