- Re: Let the DDK available for Download Part II
- Posted by John Madsen on July 16th, 2003
Walter Oney <waltoney@oneysoft.com> wrote in message news:<3EF4566C.12F189A9@oneysoft.com>...
Fascinating that you think that exchanging something that one of the
world's richest corporations says is free is roughly morally
equivalent to taking someone's private property under threat of
violence or death. I'll be sure never to buy your books.
John
- Posted by Walter Oney on July 16th, 2003
John Madsen wrote:
Do you think no one suffers physical harm from white-collar crime? Tell
that to all the folks who lost their life savings and suffered untold
distress from the Enron collapse. People *die* from economic loss. It
just takes longer.
I can probably live without the $2 royalty I would have gotten from your
purchase of one of my books, come to that.
--
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- Posted by Mark Roddy on July 16th, 2003
On 15 Jul 2003 21:29:22 -0700, johnmadsen_usenet@hotmail.com (John
Madsen) wrote:
over that use? For example I might own a vast stretch of ocean
property, and decide to allow free public access with certain
restrictions, such as all guests must register, only certain access
paths are allowed, no vehicles, etc. According to your theory it seems
that the public should simply ignore my restrictions on access and use
my land as they see fit (until of course I get annoyed enough to
prohibit all access entirely.)
According to your theory in order for Microsoft to enforce its
property rights it must charge for the DDK. Seems counter productive
to your own desires for free access to their IP.
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Windows XP/2000/NT Consulting, Microsoft DDK MVP
Hollis Technology Solutions 603-321-1032
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- Posted by Gary G. Little on July 16th, 2003
Hey stud, ever hear the old saying "cutting your nose off to spite your
face"; only if you're in a Michael Jackson look alike contest. Ok ... don't
buy Walter's book ... I doubt he needs the heart burn that that $2 would buy
at a MacDonald's anyway.
The content of the DDK is copyrighted ... oh I need not waist the time on
'splaining this again ...
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Gary G. Little
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- Posted by James Antognini on July 16th, 2003
Maybe your statement is just rhetoric or sarcasm, but in case you're
serious, I'll repeat what others said: Microsoft is not offering "free"
software in the sense of software with no restrictions. Microsoft offers
the software at no charge with (I presume; I'm not a lawyer)
restrictions as to its use. Non-profit organizations like the Regents of
the University of California (hear of FreeBSD?) offer software at no
charge with restrictions as to use. So Microsoft has good company.
And let's please forget about any equation of Microsoft's practices with
violent crime (Walter?).
As for disdaining to read the standard and the sole comprehensive text
on WDM and related topics, it's your life, your career.
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James Antognini
Windows DDK MVP
- Posted by Bill McKenzie on July 17th, 2003
That's showing him by golly!
I love this whole Napster mentality that is so prevalent nowadays. Let me
see if I understand the argument:
"Nevermind that MS spent the equivalent of several of my lifetime's worth of
work to produce the DDK, and nevermind that MS is going out of its way to
provide me with the product of that work at break even or less cost, I just
plan on stealing it, copying it, and flat disregarding all laws pertaining
to it anyway."
I don't see why any fair-minded, level-headed, proponent of free trade would
have a problem with this position. The slight problem of all of the folks
producing the goods going hungry doesn't really bother me either. In fact I
have often thought that I should just stop eating, wearing clothes, living
with heat in the winter, and drinking water. These activities are highly
overrated.
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Bill McKenzie
Compuware Corporation
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- Posted by James Antognini on July 17th, 2003
Whilst I agree with your point, I don't think it's fair to attribute the
"Napster" point of view to the individual whom you've quoted on the
basis of what he said.
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