Philippe Starck tells magazine design is dead

"I was a producer of materiality and I am ashamed of this fact," Starck told
Die Zeit weekly newspaper.

...."In future there will be no more designers. The designers of the future
will be the personal coach, the gym trainer, the diet consultant,"

Starck said the only objects that he still felt attached to were "a pillow
perhaps and a good mattress." But the thing one needs most, he added, was
the "ability to love".

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Damn, I can't wait until I'm a diet consultant.

Fred

On Mar 27, 4:04*pm, "Fred Doyle" <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
Riiiight. Ok then. Just one man's opinion

Fred Doyle wrote:

So, has he given up everything but pillow and bed? No roof over his
head? No health care? No vehicle? Only the clothes on his back? It's
very easy to be spiritual when you don't have to stay awake to stay
alive, stay in motion to keep warm, bathe in a gas station restroom,
sleep with a stranger for a place to sleep...maybe a meal. etc. He's an
'urban' designer. Maybe in France they let give people a lot for
sleeping and growing food in the city?

He'll be able to relax and choose whatever he wants to do. And, whether
good or bad. he'll probably be praised for it. He's probably earned it.
But perhaps he just means that design it dead for him. Fine. He's right
if he means that design is a dreadful form of (self) expression. It has
nothing to do with self expression. It's purposed art.

enough,
inez

Gotta love those prima donnas, eh?

*whisper*
Do you think someone should tell him that he's not the end-all-be-all
authority on design and that, strangely enough, some of us still actually
*design* instead of just blah-blah-blah on and on about it as though we're
God's gift to the art world?


Fred, where in the &*^% do you find these idiots? Please don't tell me
"Florida" okay?!

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Fred Doyle wrote:
And in an unrelated note, Drew Patterson told a magazine, "that all I
need is a Brillo and a good mistress. But the thing one needs most, he
added, was the 'ability to not take oneself too seriously.'"

Anon

Fred Doyle wrote:
He's clearly lost his own inspiration, but projecting his own
shortcomings onto the industry as a whole is terribly egocentric.


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"Fred Doyle" <fdoyle1@nycap.rr.com> schreef in bericht
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Hell, I am tired of my job too, but I don`t have the cash to quit it.
And lets be honest, most jobs are pointless.
Just imagine that we would abolish the money system.
Lets see how many jobs would disappear just because of that.
How many less stuff we needed to fill those offices, the less traffic
we would generate etc etc etc.

But we don`t see that, it's so sad.

salami met bami wrote:
The really sad thing is that we invented two systems and now very these
systems rule our lives; time and money. I imagine we all realize it as a
man made trap, but fixing it in another matter entirely. Globally our
species would have to agree to change/replace these systems. We
occasionally achieve agreement in concept, like wanting "world peace,"
but we're nowhere near evolved to the point of achieving any of the
above. Apparently we still need to set values and measurements, just as
we need strife.

"inez" <nezmyth@or.fact> schreef in bericht
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Yep we need to compete and be better than the others.
Which has gone over the top. many hands make light work.

Fred Doyle wrote:

"inez" <nezmyth@or.fact> wrote in message
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Right on target. I can't remember the exact quote, but Charlie Chaplain once
said of Freudian psychology something to the effect of, "sex is only a
motivation to a man who has just eaten a good meal." The only designer who
can afford to condemn and forego his profession is one with a surplus of
money in the bank.

Fred

On Mar 27, 4:04 pm, "Fred Doyle" <fdoy...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
Sounds like someone had a little healthy mental breakdown. :-|

inez wrote:
I disagree entirely (surprise, I'm the contrarian again). Money is a
great invention that allows me to store value from today and make use of
it later. I intend to retire some day when I can. The only way I can do
that is if I can store up some of the value that I generate today and be
able to use it another day. Money makes that possible, if not 100% perfect.

It also allows me to trade goods and services with people I don't
directly do business with. I can even trade for goods and services with
people I've never met or will ever meet.

What other system could possibly make that possible?

As far as time goes, that's no man-made invention. Its a physical
reality, a dimension like length, width and height. If you go faster,
time goes slower, and that's demonstrably true. It can be stretched and
bent, just like the other dimensions. You can no more do away with time
than you can with the other dimensions.

People can change the emphasis you put on them, and the means of
distributing them. That's a very different matter, however.

Just a little contrarian philosophy for your day, thank you.

Fred

Fred Doyle wrote:


It's just I'm too slow and have no value in this world, by the standards
the world (human society) sets.

"inez" <nezmyth@or.fact> wrote in message
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| Fred Doyle wrote:
| > inez wrote:
| >>
| >>
| >> The really sad thing is that we invented two systems and now very
| >> these systems rule our lives; time and money. I imagine we all realize
| >> it as a man made trap, but fixing it in another matter entirely.
| >> Globally our species would have to agree to change/replace these
| >> systems. We occasionally achieve agreement in concept, like wanting
| >> "world peace," but we're nowhere near evolved to the point of
| >> achieving any of the above. Apparently we still need to set values and
| >> measurements, just as we need strife.
| >
| > I disagree entirely (surprise, I'm the contrarian again). Money is a
| > great invention that allows me to store value from today and make use of
| > it later. I intend to retire some day when I can. The only way I can do
| > that is if I can store up some of the value that I generate today and be
| > able to use it another day. Money makes that possible, if not 100%
perfect.
| >
| > It also allows me to trade goods and services with people I don't
| > directly do business with. I can even trade for goods and services with
| > people I've never met or will ever meet.
| >
| > What other system could possibly make that possible?
| >
| > As far as time goes, that's no man-made invention. Its a physical
| > reality, a dimension like length, width and height. If you go faster,
| > time goes slower, and that's demonstrably true. It can be stretched and
| > bent, just like the other dimensions. You can no more do away with time
| > than you can with the other dimensions.
| >
| > People can change the emphasis you put on them, and the means of
| > distributing them. That's a very different matter, however.
| >
| > Just a little contraries philosophy for your day, thank you.
| >
| > Fred
| >
|
|
|
| It's just I'm too slow and have no value in this world, by the standards
| the world (human society) sets.

Of time we each have all there is, no more no less.

As to money: best to seek a little bit of money for food, a little bit of
money for spirits, and ... a little bit.

All I ask for is the wisdom to spent all wisely or if not wisely with joy.

"inez" <nezmyth@or.fact> wrote in message
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Well, one thing I've learned, and there aren't to many, is that you to be
the first resource in setting your own value. And you have to let those that
know and love you best be the ones the have the most influence in the value
you set on yourself, not those that don't.

Hey we're all part of human society here and we know you and we value your
contributions to our little corner of the world. That should be a start.

Fred

Fred Doyle wrote:
You're such a sweetheart, Fred. Thanks

--
inez

E.A. Poe • Eleanora
“They who dream by day are cognizant of many things
which escape those who dream only by night.”

On 2008-03-31 15:01:59 +0200, Shank <jeremyshank@gmail.com> said:

This guy really earned his share. why can't he retire quietly when he
has run out of ideas? This is somehow ridiculous –Â*on the one side we
have a designer who want to be a celebrity, on hte other hand a
desperate mag writer who _neeeeeds_ a story.
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tomasio

Ok then, the consensus is that this is just one person's opinion; the
opinion of someone who has lost his inspiration and is projecting that
on his profession, is overpaid to the point where he has lost his
perspective on the financial aspect of doing a job, takes himself too
seriously, thinks he is the be-all-end-all authority on design, needs to
retire, has had a bit of a mental breakdown, and wants to be a celebrity
not a designer and is being helped in that effort by a writer who needs
something to write about.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

Fred

In article <2b7f4c3b-3682-4d9d-a8f3-f46809c9b5b8
@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jeremyshank@gmail.com says...

It sounds more like an epiphany.