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Graphic Need
Posted by Angelo's Auto Sales on June 23rd, 2008


Hi, my wife is starting a new business of cleaning residential houses and commercial business. Does anyone have any cleaning type clipart or graphic she could use for a logo? Or can someone make one? Her business is called:

All Star Maids


Thank you,

Jeffrey Edwards

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 24th, 2008


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:32:52 -0400, "Angelo's Auto Sales"
<angelosautosales@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi Jeffrey, I don't really have any clipart or anything, but my house
sure could use some cleaning, so I was wondering if your wife could
come over and clean the place for me...I can't pay her of course, but
I figured since yer into getting something for nothing that maybe
you'd play it both way.

*nods*

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by GlamidiaCholera on June 24th, 2008


I am sure someone could, I wonder what they would ask for it?
Could it be, money? ;o)
And clipart could be found easily, I guess, when you google a bit.
=========================================
"Angelo's Auto Sales" <angelosautosales@comcast.net> schreef in bericht
news:jr2dnbeK84urTcLVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
Hi, my wife is starting a new business of cleaning residential houses and
commercial business. Does anyone have any cleaning type clipart or graphic
she could use for a logo? Or can someone make one? Her business is called:

All Star Maids


Thank you,

Jeffrey Edwards


Posted by Jeffrey Edwards on June 25th, 2008


There was only room for a couple of assholes in this group... thanks for
filling the spot!!

"GlamidiaCholera" <glamidia@chole.ra> wrote in message
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Posted by ArtistMike on June 25th, 2008


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:32:52 -0700, Angelo's Auto Sales wrote
(in article <jr2dnbeK84urTcLVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@comcast.com>):

Are you paying for the work or are you looking for free work to be done for
you?

Mike

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com
================================================== =======

Certificate Design at: http://www.artistmike.com/CertificateDesigns/1.html

Logos at: http://www.artistmike.com/NewLogos20...s2002.08a.html

AdSense PodCast at: http://www.artistmike.com/AdSensePodCast/1.html

================================================== =======


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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 25th, 2008


On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:08:45 -0400, "Jeffrey Edwards"
<jeffedwards1969@comcast.net> wrote:

You certainly are an asshole, aren't you Jeffrey? I mean, yer idiot
top poasting aside, you come bumbling into a group of graphics
professionals and artists WHO MAKE THEIR LIVING off creating logos,
websites and various other sorts of graphic work and you ask them to
do work for you for nothing. And then, when the stupidity of what
you're asking is pointed out to you, what do you do? Yeah, you get
all pissy and indignant and start trying to call *US* assholes because
we aren't willing to do work for YOU for FREE. Apparently, you're
*JUST* that important, huh Jeffrey? Stupid us, we should be humbly
HONORED to work for FREE when YOU are the one asking.

Turns out, this isn't the first time you've been looking for free
graphic work though:
http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/c...3.10.jpg.s.txt

You should probably go back to alt.binaries.pictures.animated.gifs
that's where the kiddies and tweenage muppet fucks hang out and I'm
sure they'll be willing to make you a free logo...granted said logo is
gonna be as far from professional as possible, but hey, you get what
you pay for. And besides, some idiot fuckin retard liak you probably
wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an amateur produced
logo and a professional one. Hell you'd probably LIKE the amateur one
better, oh yeah, especially if it was ANIMATED and covered in liak
blinky lights 'n shit, maybe splattered up with six or eight different
default filter effects, red text on a blue background, oh yeah, that's
the kind of work yer lookin for, huh Jeffrey?

PS - the last person to ask me for a free logo, got this:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...enet/wipey.png

Like I said, you get what you pay for.

BTW, how come that slut of a wife of yers hasn't been by yet to
service me, er, I mean service the house? Dammit, this place ain't
gonna clean itself Jeffrey! You get that bitch over here to clean
this place right now! Geez, it's not liak cleaning is hard or
anything, I don't see why she doesn't want to come over and clean it,
it'd be *SO* easy for her. *nods*

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by Jeffrey Edwards on June 26th, 2008


no your wrong. you got insultive and their was no need for it. I will say I
am sorry for offending you and everyone else. I need the graphic and will
gladly pay for it! If you or some else had said... sure that probably cost
around $100.00( for example) i will be willing to pay for it or maybe tell
me where on the net i can get this done at. I never asked for free service
or donations. i came here because these newsgroups is the only place i know
where to get ahold of the talent that i need. But if someone is going to be
an asshole to me I WILL TELL THEM THEY ARE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!
Thanks

Jeffrey



"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
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Posted by Jeffrey Edwards on June 26th, 2008


I will glady pay. I have no experience with purchasing a logo...What do
they usually cost? Thanks for your information. Is there a store or
national chain that does this or can i only get it done on the net?

Thanks again

Jeffrey



"ArtistMike" <mike@artistmike.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C48708FB002C4FC1F02845D0@free.teranews .com...


Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 26th, 2008


On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:32:24 -0400, "Jeffrey Edwards"
<jeffedwards1969@comcast.net> wrote:

You're still top poasting you idiot. BTW, have you noticed how bad
your spelling and grammar gets when you get all flustered and
indignant?

Retard, this ain't no fuckin Webbie board filled with ban happy mods
and a bunch of tweenage muppet fuck, circle jerking little clique
snits, this here is USENET, being "insultive" isn't just the norm,
it's the fuckin CULTURE. If yer gettin all butthurt over a few "bad
words" cause yer parents psychologically RAPED YOU to feel dirty every
time you hear a word like FUCK, well boo hoo, have yerself a cry and
then retard on back to Webbie land and get the fuck off Usenet, cause
we don't much liak yer kind around here.

So you're saying you're too fuckin stupid to figure out how to run a
Google search? I mean, come on, Newfag, you can't be THAT impossibly
stupid. Look, look stupid, go here:
www.google.com
Then type in the word "logo"...
Then press the "Search" button...

WOAH!

Man that was *REALLY* complicated. I can definitely see why you had
*SO* much trouble with it. *nods*

Actually you very much did, if you don't think you did, you best check
yerself there, Edith.

Yeah yer butthurtz is pretty apparent there. Here's a free cl00 for
ya...people who take the Internet as seriously as you do...they wind
up seriously mind fucked by uber nasties liak myself who derive a
great deal of entertainment by targeting newfags and verbally ripping
them apart for shits and giggles.



Posted by drew@pattersondesign.com on June 26th, 2008


On Jun 25, 7:32 pm, "Jeffrey Edwards" <jeffedwards1...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Jeffrey, pay no attention to our resident irrelevant troll. Take a
gander at his site if you want to see a lack of talent that can't even
be given away.

Now with that being said, $100 for a logo is about as close to free as
you're going to get, at least by professional standards. And frankly
clip-art LOOKS like clip-art. In other words: cheap. Plan to fork over
some real bucks or allow your wife's business to look unprofessional.

HTH.

Drew

Posted by whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com on June 26th, 2008


On Jun 26, 4:39 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> proved he don't know squat by posting:

http://pattersondesign dot com

HTH

Drew


Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 26th, 2008


On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:19:52 -0700 (PDT), drew@pattersondesign.com
wrote:

Oh look, there's my resident Hatter Addict, as whiney and talentless
as ever. Drew would make you a logo...well, except for the fact that
he CAN'T, what with how he's a poser class dipshit without even a
single ounce of creativity to his name. He's *REAL* good at coveting
other people's work though.

Yes because some hokey little out-of-yer-home cleaning "business"
*REALLY* needs to look *THAT* "professional". Quite frankly, you'd
have to be an idiot liak Drew to want to pay MORE than a $100 bucks
for such a logo. Yer not lookin at national advertisement here, you
just need something simple, cartoony and kitschy that'll appeal to yer
average suburbanite soccer mom who needs a lil help with cleaning up
the house. Go ask "ArtistMike" for a logo, he can make ya something
hokey liak that for about a $100. Just ignore Drew, he doesn't
produce jack fucking shit, except for whiney little snits regarding
other people's work. He has no work of his own.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 27th, 2008


On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

....and all this time you've been trying to attack *MY* sites?

Holy fucking shit d00d...that is just asstastic right there. First, I
had to wait about THIRTY SECONDS for that shit to load on my UNCAPPED
CABLE connection...yeah...and you've got no loading screen to speak of
either so anyone on a slow connection is gonna think yer site is just
borked and they'll be hittin that back button MINUTES before that
bloated garbage even manages to get itself up. Your site is
completely Flash and has no plain text fallback version to speak of,
so right there yer losing every single customer trying to access yer
site with a Blackberry or an iPhone or a what the fuck ever the palm
computer of the moment is. Yer also losing anyone who doesn't have
Flash installed or who doesn't want to install Flash, which is a good
10% of the computing populous, mostly luddites, Linux users, sight
impaired persons, etc.

Then of course there's the design of the site itself, which is
just...amateur hour, at best. Rainbow color schemes are best left for
Care Bears, My Little Pony and Rainbow Brite sites...not really
something you wanna use on yer shitting portfolio fer Christ sake.
And as bloated as yer site is (nearly a megabyte), yer images look
like they've been run through a washing machine. Apparently you're
too damn stupid to figure out how to properly compress images to get
the smallest file size with the maximum level of quality. My main
Backwater site has more content than yours, with more effects and eye
candy, with better looking graphics and it's about ONE FOURTH the size
of yer cookie cutter slop. One of the most dumbfuck things yer doing
on yer site is actually DOUBLING every single fucking image, in order
to have those retarded looking negative image roll-over effects.
That's right folks, this DUMBFUCK, instead of simply making use of
Flash color-matrix filters, is actually including DUPLICATE IMAGES to
produce the effect...yeah, nothing screams college flunkie quite liak
that.

There's more examples of just how inexperienced you are with graphic
encoding methodology. Take yer ErwinEleazer image, yer using JPEG
compression on it which has severely degraded the image quality, to
the point where the artifacting on the green practically jumps out in
yer face. You could have EASILY used lossless, 8bit encoding on it,
which would have produced an even SMALLER sized image that WOULDN'T
have all that shit ass looking artifacting.

Another fuckup, on yer text nav overlays, again, instead of simply
using code to alter the transparency of the text, you're actually
DOUBLING the text and then creating a transition effect between
it...which, again, is only something a college flunkie would do.

It gets even WORSE though...can you guess how BLOATED his code for
that site is? Get this, he's got around TWO HUNDRED fucking KILOBYTES
worth of CODE...to make *THAT*...holy fucking shit...I could probably
redo all that shit in about an hour with less than TWO kilobytes of
code. *shakes head* Obviously this kid is either:
A. using some kind of bloated template bitch job
or
B. is copying and pasting code snippets out of his Flash for Dummies
college textbook with absolutely *NO* fucking cl00 as to what he's
even doing.

But hey, it's not *ALL* about code and web design, let's look at his
GRAPHIC design for the site. First...the font. *rolls eyes* Can
anyone even *READ* the text? I can *BARELY* read that slop, it's all
bloated liak his code and squished together so bad it's almost
impossible to read...and it's *SO* tiny. I mean it's liak he was
trying to see just how impossibly tiny he could make the text whilst
still having it just *BARELY* legible. Pretty much if yer over 50 or
you've got bad vision...yeah, yer fucked. That's right Drew, yer
inexperience and amateur level design skills just cost you about HALF
of yer entire audience...good job there, Fuckup. PS - the next time
you pick a font, try and pick one that doesn't look liak shit when
it's anti-aliased at single and double digit sizes. Some fonts are
specifically designed for LARGE usage and are *NOT* meant to be used
for anything under ~48 point, the font you chose is an excellent
example of that.

Your logo also looks like crap...I mean scribbling outside the lines
of a box doesn't exactly convey professionalism so much as the crayon
dribblings of a retarded third grader who can't color within the
lines. The text all smooshed together also looks confusing and
jumbled, like it's one long, tongue twisting, verbal throwup of
idiocy. Simply put, no one is going to remember the name of your
business when you present it liak that, it just looks jumbled and
confusing and not worth the effort to try and decipher.

Well, I think that's about it for now. I could go on of course, I
mean I haven't even gone over all yer little client work and so forth,
none of which is done much better than the slop you call a portfolio.
Yer level and range of skill is *WAY* below mediocre, college flunkie.
Hell, I bet at least half the work in yer portfolio is college flunkie
homework assignments and so forth. Really Drew, someone of
your...height, really is not in *ANY* position to be going around
trying to snit or critique about *ANYONE* else's work. You are,
simply put, full of shit. A poser class, junior level, newfag at best
to the world of digital design. Keep learning, keep trying new
things...but in the mean time, you best just keep yer fuckin mouth
shut when it comes to OTHER people's work, cause yer in *NO* position
to be critiquing anyone else's work, not when yer own shit looks like
such failing slop.

Posted by MindBrain on June 28th, 2008



"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
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Are you blind ?



Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 28th, 2008


On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:44:30 -0500, "MindBrain"
<someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

Are you stupid? Free cl00, Retardo, some of us aren't still using
800x600 display resolution and clunkly, decade old, boat anchor weight
CRTs.

Not that I would expect AMATEURS liak you and Drew to have any fucking
cl00 at all when it comes to creating sites that are cross-resolution
compatible.



Posted by MindBrain on June 28th, 2008



"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:lkhb64hip7idcj9v5o80bhqs6or97257ac@4ax.com...
Wow, I didn't even mention anything about resolutions. I'm using a 1440x900
flatscreen and when you brought that up I found it ironic that most of your
sites are 800x600 pixel boxes, hahahahaha.

I didn't have any more trouble loading his site than I do yours, but his
site actually has some decent CONTENT. Talking about "encoding methodology"
and whatever the fuck else you blabber on about doesn't mean shit unless you
have something good to show, which you probably know you don't.

Well I hope this helps thanks bye.



Posted by Rose on June 28th, 2008



"Jeffrey Edwards" <jeffedwards1969@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6PednXbmqM-qS__VnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@comcast.com...
Actually it would be quite easy enough to do a little online surfing just to
get a general idea about how much it would cost to have a logo designed for
you.

Just doing a little looking myself I see that an average for an individually
designed logo - but we are talking about a business's logo - could start at
a couple of hundred dollars and that's not to mention what kind of logo that
you may want.

Are you just talking a simple design? The more complicated, the more the
cost................

Rose
"How in the heck did I ever get talked into this?"
http://members.aol.com/Roseb44170/home.html



Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on June 29th, 2008


On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:18:04 -0500, "MindBrain"
<someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

Well no fuckin DUH you didn't mention anything about resolutions, what
the fuck part of my last post DIDN'T you comprehend as far as you not
having any fucking cl00 when it comes to that subject?

Hopefully not one of those Acer jobbies, contrast ratios is shit. The
Gateways and Samsung's are alright though.

Hahahahahaha...it's funny because you're a MORON. My OLDER sites are
based on an 800x600 res because, at the time they were made, THAT was
considered the standard base res, however, since January of this year,
the number of 800x600 res users has dropped below 10%:

....and so at this point you should be using a base res of 1024x768 for
your sites (minus a bit for the taskbar and browser nav). If you're
using anything else...yeah, yer an idiot!

Except for the fact that mine loads 75% faster and has an actual
loading bar so you KNOW it's loading, where as Wonder Retard up there
effectively killed off nearly 25% of his potential customers who are
still using dial-up and sub-broadband Inet connections who will just
think his site is borked after staring at a black screen for more than
a minute. Hell he's even losing broadband users, most of which are
*NOT* going to wait 30 to 50 seconds for his crap to load. Most
broadband users expect to see instantaneous loading, or at least a
loading bar, if they don't see that, yeah, they'll just hammer that
back button and move on. I would estimate, on the whole, he's
probably losing around 75% of his potential clients, simply because he
has no loading bar.

No, his site has some MEDIOCRE content, nothing you haven't already
seen before on any of a hundred other college flunkie level "designer"
sites. His site really isn't doing nor is it presenting *ANY* sort of
unique, specialized or interesting content. It's just the same old,
generic, paint by numbers, kiddie coloring book crap. Most of it is
probably 'C' level homework assignments from whatever failing little
design college he went to.

Retard, my content runs fucking circles around any of the shit on
Wonder Retard's site. The majority of his sites look like generic
cookie cutter, carbon copy crapware. My sites actually present TRULY
custom designs with highly thought out forms and navigation controls.
Not to mention that many of my sites, especially those in the test
platform directory are featuring extremely bleeding edge web
development techniques, whilst Wonder Retard is still scrapping the
bottom of the barrel as far as default filter effects, both in
Photoshop and in Flash. His level and range of knowledge simply
hasn't matured past the banal, sub-standard, flunkie level he was
taught in school. College flunkies are taught how to use what's
there, rather than to use what ISN'T there by combining techniques,
forms and filters not simply from the same program, but from MULTIPLE
programs. Take the audio player I'm developing for my CB site:

I used a combination of FOUR different digital design programs to
produce that and its animation effects. That's very typical of my
work though, which largely looks so unique BECAUSE I combine multiple
techniques and functions from different programs. Work like yours and
Drew's is VERY generic looking though in that almost all of it is
based on an extremely limited range of techniques and program
familiarity. To become as good a designer as I am you should expert
level knowledge of not only graphic design programs, but video
editing/rendering applications, 3D rendering and design applications,
animation and vector level editing programs and audio editing and
rendering applications. But then not only do you need to have an
expert level of ability in those various programs you have to be
talented enough and creative enough to come up with ways of how you
can COMBINE techniques and abilities from the various programs to
produce new, cutting edge designs and effects.

Simply put, neither you, nor Drew, is anywhere even CLOSE to that
level of ability.

I'm sure your post has helped your little "NEED" to try and
over-compensate for you lack of ability, unfortunately you didn't, nor
will you, actually attempt to argue or debate on any of the specific
points I presented that soundly rip apart your's and Drew's failing
stance as a wannabe web designer. You lose, Cupcake...now feel bad
about it...and then post angry. LOL ^__^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by CapCity on June 30th, 2008



"Jeffrey Edwards" <jeffedwards1969@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6PednXbmqM-qS__VnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@comcast.com...
A little off topic, but top-posting is considered bad form.

If you're not sure what this means, look at where the text in your replies
are located, compared to the text of other's replies.





Posted by Fred Doyle on June 30th, 2008


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

and non-professionals WHO MAKE THEIR LIVING at WalMart

Fred



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