I want a logo for an open-source chess database

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/

The database is free and released under the GNU General Public License.

I have this logo which I made. It is a computer screen shot, but with
the text added in Gimp.

http://chessdb.cvs.sourceforge.net/*...f?revision=1.1

I've received two comments about my attempt at the logo.

1) "Maybe you could change blue to some other, a bit warmer, color? It
doesn't really fit with the rest of the colors you used. Otherwise it's
a really nice logo"

2) "Personally, I agree with the blue. maybe with a 3D render or
something like that. But I'm also not skilled in graphics"

My skills on graphics are really poor.

I need to keep the same pieces, since this is a screenshot from the
actual program.

Would anyone be willing to leave the chess board and pieces as they are
(even if you have better chess pieces), but simply alter the text for
something that looks a bit better? I really don't care too much what you
do, as long as it says "ChessDB" (in that mix of upper and lower case)
in a pleasing way.

The basic image, without the text is below.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/tutor...70-no-text.gif

If you want to alter the colours of the squares, feel free, but one must
remain significantly lighter than the other - keep the darker one
dark and the lighter one light. This shows a position from a recent
game, in which the world chess champion (Vladimir Kramnik) lost to a
computer (Deep Fritz) by overlooking a simple mate in one. It is the
first time a world champion has much such a silly blunder in a serious
game of chess.

Being free GPL'ed software, which I'm developing out of interest and not
money, I'm unable to pay for a logo designer, but you will full credit
for the design, which will go into the software and on at least some of
the web pages.

I need it as a GIF at 187x70. It goes without saying that since this is
to be distributed with open-source software licensed under the GNU
General Public License, I would need someone to agree they are happy for
it to be distributed like this. The main point would be you retain
copyright, but someone else could alter it and redistribute it.

Any offers?

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@althorne.org
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/ - a Free open-source Chess Database

In article <45b4f212@212.67.96.135>,
"Dave (from the UK)"
<see-my-signature@southminster-branch-line.org.uk> wrote:

NO.

"woods" <

| "Dave (from the UK)"

| >
| > Any offers?
|
| NO.

Can you be a bit more definitive?

alt.binaries.design.graphics

salami met bami wrote:

Thanks. I cant see that newsgroup, but someone forwarded me the image. I
want to keep it much closer to what I had - really just some text it
on will do.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@althorne.org
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/ - a Free open-source Chess Database

In article <nkcth.62$Ht1.26@newsfe04.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

No Thank You.

"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
news:45b5a3e7$0$5744$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
| In article <nkcth.62$Ht1.26@newsfe04.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
| wrote:
|
| > "woods" <
| >
| > | "Dave (from the UK)"
| >
| > | >
| > | > Any offers?
| > |
| > | NO.
| >
| > Can you be a bit more definitive?
|
| No Thank You.

That's polite but no more definative. (d&r)

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:19:13 +0000, "Dave (from the UK)"
<see-my-signature@southminster-branch-line.org.uk> wrote:

How much are you offering to pay us again? You wanna know what
happened to the LAST retard who wanted a free logo?

http://www.backwater-productions.net...llerskates.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net...enet/wipey.png

....yeah.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
<snip>

I thought I made that pretty clear in the post, with the sentence:

"Being free GPL'ed software, which I'm developing out of interest and
not money, I'm unable to pay for a logo designer"

Perhaps was not clear enough for you. I guess if your native language is
not English ie might be difficult to understand. Sorry if that is the case.

I don't know, but I'd like to think I am not a retard. You can judge for
yourself if you want - there is some notes about my background here:

http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/researc...k/phd/phd.html

Nice, but not what I want.

I thought my request was a reasonable one. I've written short C programs
for people on the web and published several bits of software under the GPL:

http://atlc.sourceforge.net/
http://witm.sourceforge.net/
http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/
http://hp8970.sourceforge.net/

which other benefit from - and a few more around not on Sourceforge.

I had a basic design

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/tutor...70-no-text.gif

I just really wanted some decent looking test added to.

I understand from someone else via private email there have been
problems with people doing logos for open-source projects. Whilst he is
not willing to design me one, he as at least plesent about it.

Your comments really would be best kept to yourself.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@althorne.org
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/ - a Free open-source Chess Database

Well mostly it is reserved for the "I`ll pay you later" posts.

In article <npoth.2$KR6.0@newsfe03.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

Definitive

adjective.
(of conclusion or agreement). done or reached decisively and with
authority.

"Dave (from the UK)" <see-my-signature@althorne.org> wrote in message
news:45b6617d@212.67.96.135...
| Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
| > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:19:13 +0000, "Dave (from the UK)"
| > <see-my-signature@southminster-branch-line.org.uk> wrote:
| >

<snip>
| I just really wanted some decent looking text added to.
|
| I understand from someone else via private email there have been
| problems with people doing logos for open-source projects. Whilst he is
| not willing to design me one, he as at least pleasant about it.
|
| Your comments really would be best kept to yourself.
|

Dave,

I don't block many/much but Hatter is the classic reason that block list
exist.

The problems of 'free' request are many (see www.no-spec.com for a hammer
view) and are, by far, not limited to only open source projects.

We've even had to get very hard nosed with friends and family on the matter.

With regard to 'noble' charities (and they are all noble to someone) we've
evolved the practice that if someone staff is not making cash donations to
an organization the organization does not qualify for pro bono work. There
are few exceptions but they are in fact exceptions.

This was in self-defense as work for paying clients and the bank balance
were sufferin'

"woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
news:45b69fe7$0$16554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
| In article <npoth.2$KR6.0@newsfe03.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
| wrote:
|
| > "woods" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
| > news:45b5a3e7$0$5744$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
| > | In article <nkcth.62$Ht1.26@newsfe04.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
| > | wrote:
| > |
| > | > "woods" <
| > | >
| > | > | "Dave (from the UK)"
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Any offers?
| > | > |
| > | > | NO.
| > | >
| > | > Can you be a bit more definitive?
| > |
| > | No Thank You.
| >
| > That's polite but no more definative. (d&r)
|
| Definitive
|
| adjective.
| (of conclusion or agreement). done or reached decisively and with
| authority.

I always try to include something for everyone with in this case applies to
nit pickers.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:26:52 +0000, "Dave (from the UK)"
<see-my-signature@althorne.org> wrote:

....so you think that since what you're offering is free that everyone
else should just line the fuck up at your door and start producing for
ya, is that it?

Huh, what an amazing concept...oh hey, I think maybe I'm gonna start a
FREE MEDICAL CLINIC...guess that means all the doctors, nurses and
surgeons should just start linin the fuck right up at the door lookin
to donate their time, huh?

....guess that's kind of a BAD example though, what with how that would
be a bit of a CHARITABLE donation...where as with your
endeavors...well...that's more of just a PERSONAL HOBBY and you're
simply looking for SPEC WORK.

Perhaps my SARCASM wasn't clear enough for you, you fuckwitted retard.

Not impressed. Apparently you went from cutting edge research to
dribbling chess deficiencies...coincidentally I notice that it was um,
AFTER you completed school. There's a word I use for people like
you...college flunkies. Basically unless you're in an educational
institution being hand held and spoon fed...you're wholly incapable of
learning, advancing or producing in any sense of the word. ^_^

Oh, not only do you want people to GIVE YOU SOMETHING FOR
NOTHING...but you're being PICKY about it too, huh?

You know what I hate about people like you...it's not even so much
your own self destructive behavior...it's the fact that you perpetuate
and inflict that damage onto others through your drooling actions.

Well private email sure the fuck ain't Usenet, Kiddo. Why don't you
retard the fuck back to some dribbling little Webbie board or Blogger
board...I think that might be more your speed.

Your fuckwitted deficiencies would be best kept OFF Usenet, you
dribbling RL. We Netters...we really don't much like your kind around
here. Especially in the way that so many of you RLs have been
psychologically and physically BEATEN as children to feel all dirty
inside when you hear words like FUCK. He, he, he...yer culture is so
antiquated by our standards. `, )

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:54:12 -0500, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Yes, I really am the reason that lessers like you should shut
yourselves the fuck up. I mean you're just too damn stupid to get the
fuck off Usenet and retard back to Webbie land with all the ban happy
lil tweenage muppet fucks that you would no doubt feel so much more
comfortable around.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

NotMe wrote:

Yes, I can see that. I will not reply to him any more.

Someone else (the person who sent me the private mails), referred me to
that site too.

I've had people take the mic a bit myself over. I have an antenna
analysis program I wrote

http://www.g8wrb.org/yagi/

and one guy was asking lots of questions about antenna design, which i
was happy to answer. Then he asks me if I could send him engineering
drawings in autocad format, so he could get the antennas made up which
was for a commercial purpose. As soon as I mentioned that would be some
money involved, so he never cam back.




I can see that.

I guess my best bet is probably to spend a few hours and find out what I
want to do using Gimp. It will never win any prizes for a logo, but it
will do.

At least starting with the chessboard, not much skill is needed to get
something that will not be too bad.

There are plenty of mathematical equations which can be used with a
program like Mathematica to produce some nice graphics

http://gallery.wolfram.com/

I could use someting like that, as tweaking the equations one can often
get all manner of wierd and wonderful images.

--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form: month-year@althorne.org
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/ - a Free open-source Chess Database

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:57:05 -0600, inez <nezmyth@no.thank.you> wrote:

LOL, as if THAT'S an option.

Awww, didums got his wittle feewings hurt and so he's run cwying in
teh corner screaming, "TROLL, TROLL!"

Tsch, tsch, tsch...dat mean 'ol boogey man Mad Hatter all went and
ruined yer lil day.

As I recall you had difficulty grasping the concept of purposefully
distorting the kerning in order to achieve a liquid effect...but then
again yer something of a deficient, so pretty much unless it's like
the default non-antialiased font options in PS...yeah...it's outta yer
league, innt?

There is no "correct" way of doing it, you gawd damn hippie molesting
retard. If you want free love and graphics you can fuck yourself off
to the nearest Photoshop commune group.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
newstfdr2tohcmuvlhp3fe6n56ug1g39l908p@4ax.com...

Shaddup Hatter you can't make logos anyway

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:04:28 GMT, "MindBrain" <someone@microsoft.com>
wrote:

What are you drooling on about now, Spittles?

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> schreef in bericht
news:5oidr2h1ui2miltqpt61040vn3vcv0r6b1@4ax.com...
Yes it is, killfiles are very common in newsreaders
so it could/would be an option.