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Printing on Black Paper : Help Please :-)
Posted by Seth_Gecko on October 12th, 2003


Hi

PS7 newbie, could someone please tell me what i need to do i am printing a
flyer, i need the background to be black, but having an inkjet printer
(canon i550) i dont wanna waste alotta black ink each time i wanna print a
test page. i thought working with a white background and then printing it on
black paper
would save me from making the background black and ending up with a black
ink soaked page

this is probably a silly predicament i'm in but is there is solution ?

thanks


Posted by mike on October 13th, 2003


in article bmcjb9$nca$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net, Seth_Gecko at
sethgecko@webmail.co.za wrote on 10/12/03 3:11 PM:


Hire a real print shop to print your flyers.

":^) ®



Posted by J-Dogg on October 13th, 2003


There is a product called "toner foil" (which you could get through
PaperDirect about ten years ago) and the foil sticks to toner coming out of
a laser printer. You have to use a little iron, very low temperature, that
comes with the foil. That might be cool if you wanted refelctive orange
lettering, or somthing. It came in rolls and they made a dozen or so colors.
So you'd design your flier, and then cut the toner to cover the letters and
shapes in the flyer.

I'll look around. Anyone else remember this stuff?

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Posted by Donald Link on October 13th, 2003


BUY Black Paper!




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Posted by thomas on October 13th, 2003


well seth i hate to tell you but your inkjet printer works on the premise of
recreating colors by ADDING cyan, magenta, yellow, and black ink. in order
for this process to work it assumes a base of white which is why when you
print on your black paper the ink does not show up. perhaps your best bet
would be to have your flyer printed out by a place that can handle your
problem because youll have no luck with your inkjet.

-tom

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Posted by JP Kabala on October 13th, 2003


Not with any home inkjet that I know of.
a commercial printer could do it, however
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Posted by DosBoss57 on October 13th, 2003


On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:11:02 +0200, "Seth_Gecko"
<sethgecko@webmail.co.za> wrote:

Assuming that you want to print white on black, why don't you try
making your design in a very light grey say 10% grey and then when you
print on black paper, photoshop will assume that you are using white
paper and leave the black alone. The grey should show almost white in
contrast to the black paper. This is assuming (I do assume alot don't
I?) that you want to do this very cheaply and that it doesn't have to
be perfect white. Are you making the flyers for a mailing? If so I
feel that this is as cheap as you can go....just a thought!!!

//Õ¿Õ\\

DosBoss57

Imagine all the people living life in peace !

Posted by Stephan on October 13th, 2003



"Seth_Gecko" <sethgecko@webmail.co.za> wrote in message
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Simply impossible.You can't print on black paper forget it!
If you want cheap go to Kinko's nothing you will do at home on you inkjet
can be cheaper.
Even if you use cheap fast fading, jet clogging inks
The cheapest way would probably to output one good print and use it for
laser copies ($1/piece)

Stephan



Posted by mike on October 13th, 2003


in article levjov4bs0ufobb52cn1l95tt2tfa2sk7a@4ax.com, DosBoss57 at
buffoneNOSPAM@videotron.ca wrote on 10/12/03 6:25 PM:



You are too silly. Grey ink is just black ink ... duh...

It is not going to show up on black paper.

You are so silly.


--
Mike

* Logo Design *
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Site at: http://www.artistmike.com




Posted by Rich Webb on October 13th, 2003


On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:05:41 GMT, "Stephan" <NoMoreSpam@Thank.you>
wrote:

Actually a two-pass process,a regular laser printer and then an ink jet,
might make it do-able for a small homemade print run. The OP would need
to look into how to "trap" the colors and experiment a bit with
alignment and ordering (laser then ink jet or the other way around?).
There would also be some trimming involved, of course.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

Posted by DosBoss57 on October 13th, 2003


On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:09:06 -0700, mike <mike@artistmike.com> wrote:


I don't know you and I thank God for that ! Whenever you post a reply
to someone on this newsgroup, it's always the lowest form of sarcasm.
You make it so easy for someone to hate you even if they don't know
you. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, you know? And you, dear Mike,
are the master. Why don't you try to say something constructive once
in a while instead of all your bullshit like "Hire me ". I've been to
your website and personally i think your work is pathetic, to say the
least. I must admit that you are very good with bevels....everyone
here knows that. But then again...that's all you can do from the work
that I've seen.

All I did was suggest to someone about the damned grey ink but you
couldn't resist to put your nasty 2 cents in. As far as I'm concerned,
your opinion isn't even worth that much to me. You should try posting
something that might help someone sometime. Tacit, for example, would
run circles around you in any type of Photoshop contest based on
creativity or knowledge of the software and he never, ever puts
someone down in his posts. He always says something creative or
something that may help the poster learn a technique or two.

Your persistent sarcasm is proof positive of how insecure you are as
far as your "chops" are concerned. You definitely realize that your
work just plain SUX the big one and you always try to hide that by
trying to show how proficient you are. If you can't come up with
constructive criticism, why don't you just get some paints and get
back in your cave, smartass???

There's a sight called www.worth1000.com where they have daily
contests....try signing up and see how many of those you can win you
old fart !!!

//Õ¿Õ\\

DosBoss57

Imagine all the people living life in peace !

Posted by DaKitty on October 13th, 2003


Ink Jet ink is transparent, it will not show up on black, much like spilled
coffee doesn't really turn black paper brown.

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Posted by mike on October 13th, 2003


in article nm6kov45c4f0o32nod5voram861670bngc@4ax.com, DosBoss57 at
buffoneNOSPAM@videotron.ca wrote on 10/12/03 8:42 PM:

Nice that you learned that you can't print on black paper, not even with
"gray" ink.

hahahaha.

":^) ®





And people like you gobble it right up.

":^) ®




Not my job to satisfy your needs.

":^) ®




What was your link again?

hahahaha.





"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com

If you want to print with "grey" ink... you are going to have to go to a
print shop.

And even then they are not going to be able to print it on black paper.
Just not going to happen.

You might be able to silkscreen it, but that is not what you were talking
about.

":^) ®



For something that is not "worth that much" to you... you sure like to type.

"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com

":^) ®




So should you. Telling someone to use grey ink is not helping.

"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com

":^) ®




I have no need to enter contests... you do that for me, ok?

":^) ®





You got a problem? Cry to someone that cares.

":^) ®




Time for you to run along and whine to someone else. I don't care about
your opinion of my work. There is no reason to care about your opinion, so
I don't.

"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com

":^) ®




You don't understand how newsgroups work, do you. Try and keep up.

":^) ®





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Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com




Posted by mike on October 13th, 2003


in article nm6kov45c4f0o32nod5voram861670bngc@4ax.com, DosBoss57 at
buffoneNOSPAM@videotron.ca wrote on 10/12/03 8:42 PM:




Looks like a little boy wants to play... I wonder how long he will last.

One day? Probably.

":^) ®



--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com




Posted by Stephan on October 13th, 2003



"Rich Webb" <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote in message
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Good luck!

Stephan



Posted by Stephan on October 13th, 2003



"DosBoss57" <buffoneNOSPAM@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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Just zap the bastard like most of us do.

Stephan



Posted by mike on October 13th, 2003


in article Yvqib.8520$ZH4.7690@twister.socal.rr.com, Stephan at
NoMoreSpam@Thank.you wrote on 10/12/03 10:13 PM:



What "most people" do is irrelevant to me.

":^) ®


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Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com




Posted by SoftSpot on October 13th, 2003



"Seth_Gecko" <sethgecko@webmail.co.za> schreef in bericht
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Some time ago I tried something similar: we wanted to "print" something on a
black T-shirt. So I printed the design on a piece of transfertpaper and then
ironned it onto the T-shirt. Result: completely useless.
I guess all the negative answers here (at least those who don't stick out by
being rude, offensive and insulting) are right: with a normal
household-inkjetprinter you just can't print on black and expect a useful
result.
Perhaps if you know someone with a professional dye-wax printer it might
work, those printers work by the color-adding principle, rather than
color-substraction... but I'm not sure since I have never even seen such a
printer (bit too expensive for my account)



Posted by J-Dogg on October 13th, 2003


Wow, offset screen printing with a laser and an inkjet. Pretty clever.

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Posted by JP Kabala on October 13th, 2003


sorry, but no....my office had a dye/wax printer....used one for years
uses waxes in c-m-y-k....no way to make white---
least expensive process has already been suggested---
produce a prototype and pay for color copies.

finding a price on the Kinkos site is like finding a needle in a haystack
but it's usually .75-1.00 depending on size and quantity

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